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Subject: RAW Text Minutes 2008-08-05


Mike Edwards: 1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 22nd July
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28955/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-07-22.html

3. Action Items:

2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html

2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.

2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24

2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness

2008-07-08-1: Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema

2008-07-22-1: Aupperle to raise new issue(s) wrt ASSEMBLY-28
DONE
2008-07-22-2: Edwards to raise an issue regarding definition of lifecycle model (re Issue 8 resolution)
DONE
2008-07-22-3: Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
2008-07-22-4: Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)
2008-07-22-5: Edwards to start discussion on E-mail regarding Section 6.6 (re Issue 8 resolution)
DONE

4. New Issues

ASSEMBLY-74 Corrections to the contributions schema
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-74

There is a proposal which will resolve this issue attached to the JIRA
- this proposal will be considered immediately if the TC agrees to open this issue.

ASSEMBLY-75 Section on "Wire" in Appendix is Incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-75

There is a proposal which will resolve this issue attached to the JIRA
- this proposal will be considered immediately if the TC agrees to open this issue.

ASSEMBLY-76 SCA Assembly Specification should provide a lifecycle model for Components and related artifacts in the Domain
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-76

ASSEMBLY-77 How to map WSDL 1.1. portType to WSDL 2.0 interface and vice versa?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-77

5. Existing Issues


ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8

Latest discussion and proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00027.html

ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41

Proposed update to the Issue:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00029.html
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F

ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37

Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting

ASSEMBLY-16 Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16

Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F
1) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html

ASSEMBLY-33 Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33



6. AOB

Next meeting is on August 12th



Eric Wells: Scribe: Eric Wells

Eric Wells: Topic: Role Call



Jim Marino1: I'm here, just having phone problems



Eric Wells: 15/25 = 60% Quorate

Eric Wells: Topic: Agenda

Eric Wells: No additions/changes

Eric Wells: Topic: Approval of Minutes 22-Jul-08

Eric Wells: Resolution: Minutes 22-Jul-08 approved without objection

Eric Wells: Topic: Action Items

Eric Wells: 2008-04-28-1: Editors to address the editorial comments contained in Combellack's comments at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200804/msg00089.html

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-06-03-3: Simon Nash and Anish Karmarkar to develop a more concrete proposal for Issue 37 along the lines of the F2F discussion so that profitable discussion may continue this meeting.

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-06-03-4: Chapman to propose some non-normative clarification test to resolve Issue-26 due=2008-12-24

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-06-03-6: Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-07-08-1: Simon Nash - Review spec for areas that might benefit from illustration by the addition of pseudo-schema

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-07-22-1: Aupperle to raise new issue(s) wrt ASSEMBLY-28

Eric Wells: Action: id=2008-07-22-1 status=closed

Eric Wells: Done

Eric Wells: 2008-07-22-2: Edwards to raise an issue regarding definition of lifecycle model (re Issue 8 resolution)

Eric Wells: Action: id=2008-07-22-2 status=closed

Eric Wells: Done

Eric Wells: 2008-07-22-3: Karmarkar to send an E-mail with details of use case (re Issue 8 resolution)

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-07-22-4: Booz to rewrite 11.2.1 to consider Simon N's use case (re Issue 8 resolution)

Eric Wells: No change

Eric Wells: 2008-07-22-5: Edwards to start discussion on E-mail regarding Section 6.6 (re Issue 8 resolution)

Eric Wells: Action: id=2008-07-22-5 status=closed

Eric Wells: Done

Eric Wells: Topic: New Issues

Eric Wells: ASSEMBLY-74 Corrections to the contributions schema
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-74

Eric Wells: Bryan described new issue



Mike Edwards: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200808/msg00009.html



Eric Wells: Motion: m=BryanA s=MichaelB Open issue ASSEMBLY-74

Eric Wells: Resolution: Issue ASSEMBLY-74 accepted w/o

Eric Wells: Topic: ASSEMBLY-74

Eric Wells: Issue ASSEMBLY-74 already has detailed proposal - Bryan describes

Eric Wells: Motion: m=BryanA s=JeffE Resolve ASSEMBLY-74 with BryanA's proposal

Eric Wells: Resolution: ASSEMBLY-74 resolved with BryanA's proposal in E-mail below accepted w/o

Eric Wells: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200808/msg00009.html

Eric Wells: ASSEMBLY-75 Section on "Wire" in Appendix is Incorrect
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-75

Eric Wells: Mike Edwards describes issue

Eric Wells: Simon Nash: Question regarding definition and wording

Eric Wells: Mike Edwards: Direct quote from spec is wrong - wires can't connect to composites

Eric Wells: Resolution: ASSEMBLY-75 "Wire" in Appendix accepted w/o

Eric Wells: Topic: ASSEMBLY-75 "Wire" in Appendix

Eric Wells: Issue ASSEMBLY-75 already has detailed proposal

Eric Wells: Simon Nash: Questions that wires cannot connect to ANY composite

Eric Wells: ... there is another part (Section 6.2) that implies wires can go to composite references

Eric Wells: Mike Edwards: Doesn't agree - this section is describing composites

Eric Wells: Brief discussion between Simon & Mike who agreed to discuss off-line

Eric Wells: ASSEMBLY-76 SCA Assembly Specification should provide a lifecycle model for Components and related artifacts in the Domain
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-76

Eric Wells: Motion: m=MikeE s=MarkC ASSEMBLY-76 accepted w/o

Eric Wells: ASSEMBLY-77 How to map WSDL 1.1. portType to WSDL 2.0 interface and vice versa?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-77

Eric Wells: Anish is not on the call - Martin C describes issue

Eric Wells: Resolution: ASSEMBLY-76 SCA Assembly Specification accepted w/o

Eric Wells: Motion: m=MartinC s=BryanA Open issue ASSEMBLY-77

Eric Wells: Resolution: ASSEMBLY-77 Mapping WSDL 1.1 to 2.0 accepted w/o

Eric Wells: Topic: Open Issues

Eric Wells: ASSEMBLY-8 SCDL artifact resolution underspecified
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-8



Mike Edwards: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28955/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-07-22.html



Eric Wells: Continuation of discussion from 22-Jul-08

Eric Wells: Dave Booz is not on call today



Mike Edwards: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00060.html



Eric Wells: Anish Karmarkar not on call today

Eric Wells: DaveB was to rewrite 11.2.1 and AnishK was to provide use case



Mike Edwards: "The SCA runtime MUST reject a deployed composite and raise an error where that composite, or a composite that it depends on, has an <include/> statement   
where the referenced included composite is not found in the same SCA contribution as the including composite."



Eric Wells: Simon N: Unsure if discussion encompasses "depends on" as well as "includes" components

Eric Wells: ... "depends on" is broader than "includes"

Eric Wells: Mike E: Wording intended to expressly exclude "depends on"

Eric Wells: No further discussion - wait until Dave B returns

Eric Wells: Topic: ASSEMBLY-41 Conflicting domain-level deployments

Eric Wells: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-41

Proposed update to the Issue:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00029.html
Requires a writeup based on discussions at the F2F

Eric Wells: Simon N: Think there was agreement on way forward - check F2F Minutes for AI?



Mike Edwards: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/28591/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-06-03.html



Eric Wells: Mike E: Issue currently doesn't cover property updates - which it needs to

Eric Wells: ... procedural issue to expand issue 41



Mike Edwards: Mike E moves to extend the scope of Issue 41 to include the update of domain level Property values and the effect that this has on any Components that use those values as part of their configuration.



Eric Wells: ...(pause to consider proposal)

Eric Wells: Motion: m=MikeE s=BryanA Extend ASSEMBLY-41 to include MikeE's wording above

Eric Wells: Brief discussion to clarify

Eric Wells: Resolution: ASSEMBLY-41 Extended to include property updates - accepted w/o

Eric Wells: Action: owner=MikeE due=2008-08-12 Mike E to open discussion of ASSEMBLY-41 on E-mail list



Mike Edwards: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00039.html



Eric Wells: Topic: ASSEMBLY-37 Clarify SCA Domain virtual composites



Mike Edwards: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html



Eric Wells: Waiting for a write-up based on discussions at the F2F meeting

Eric Wells: No futher discussion



Mike Edwards: Email discussions for issue 37 are posted above - 1 email from Simon nash, 1 from Mike Edwards



Eric Wells: Topic: Component URI is not well described
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-16

Proposal requires write-up of 2 separate action items from the F2F
1) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200807/msg00020.html

Eric Wells: Simon N: Reviews his previous E-mail on this issue (link above)

Eric Wells: ... need to read this in conjunction with DaveB's proposal regarding infosets



Mike Edwards: (Dave B's proposal was first presented at the June F2F)



Eric Wells: ... SCA-Assembly should ONLY say that it's (optionally) available for SCA-Bindings and NOTHING further

Eric Wells: ... it would be up to SCA-Bindings to say how it is used IF it is available

Eric Wells: Clarification of Simon N's propsal

Eric Wells: There are TWO distinct URI's which are not necessarily related

Eric Wells: SCA-Assembly treats as URN SAC-Bindings MAY chose to use this as a URI

Eric Wells: Mike E: describes "URI Alias" as in his E-mail (linked above)

Eric Wells: ... alias stays the same when underlying URI changes



Martin C: time check



Eric Wells: Discussion on how to handle errors if alias targets are not updated

Eric Wells: Discussion on what would be allowed (multiple targets etc)

Eric Wells: Topic: AOB



Mike Edwards: Eric - are you able to generate the minutes using Bob's tooling?



Eric Wells: Straggler role

Eric Wells: No sorry I don't have the tools

Eric Wells: I'll take a (text) copy of the chat

Eric Wells: Adjourned 9:03AM PST



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