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Subject: Draft Minutes of 2008-11-04 are attached
- From: Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>
- To: sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:40:31 -0500
Title: SCA-Assy - 2008-11-04
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SCA-Assembly TC
Teleconference
04 NOV 2008
Present
| fred carter |
AmberPoint |
Group Member |
| Mark Combellack |
Avaya, Inc. |
Group Member |
| Dale Moberg |
Axway Software* |
Group Member |
| Jacques Durand |
Fujitsu Limited* |
Group Member |
| Tom Rutt |
Fujitsu Limited* |
Group Member |
| Robert Freund |
Hitachi, Ltd. |
Group Member |
| Eric Wells |
Hitachi, Ltd. |
Group Member |
| Bryan Aupperle |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Michael Beisiegel |
IBM |
Group Member |
| David Booz |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Graham Charters |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Mike Edwards |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Simon Holdsworth |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Dieter Koenig |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Simon Moser |
IBM |
Group Member |
| Simon Nash |
Individual |
Group Member |
| Jeff Estefan |
Jet Propulsion Laboratory:* |
Group Member |
| Martin Chapman |
Oracle Corporation |
Group Member |
| Khanderao Kand |
Oracle Corporation |
Group Member |
| Anish Karmarkar |
Oracle Corporation |
Group Member |
| Rich Levinson |
Oracle Corporation |
Group Member |
| Sanjay Patil |
SAP AG* |
Group Member |
| Plamen Pavlov |
SAP AG* |
Group Member |
| Sabin Ielceanu |
TIBCO Software Inc. |
Group Member |
| Scott Vorthmann |
TIBCO Software Inc. |
Group Member |
Chairs
| Mike Edwards |
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| Martin Chapman |
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Scribe
Agenda:
1. Opening
Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing
2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 21st October
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29899/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202008-10-28.html 3. Action Items:
id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
id=2008-10-30-3 status=pending Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudoschemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
4. TC Administrivia
Reminder that next week's call on Nov 11th is cancelled
5. Conformance & Test
Adopt the Conformance version of the specification as the next working draft:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29791/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2%20Conformance-05.pdf 6. New Issues
ASSEMBLY-88 Possible duplicate functionality offered by constrainingType and component
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-88 ASSEMBLY-89 Need for a Callback annotation for WSDL interface files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-89 Question for Debate concerning Component @name attribute
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200810/msg00058.html 7. Existing Issues
ASSEMBLY-37 Need to clarify contents of an SCA Domain virtual composite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-37 Direction agreed at Oct F2F - waiting writeup
ASSEMBLY-33: Long-Running Request-Response Operations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-33 ASSEMBLY-34: Define error handling
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-34 ASSEMBLY-46: Dynamic Aspects of the Domain not adequately described in the Assembly Specification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-46 ASSEMBLY-5: component type allows to specify wire targets on references
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-5 ASSEMBLY-86: Abstract CRUD APIs for definitions infoset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-86 ASSEMBLY-87: A single definitions infoset is not sufficient
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-87 ASSEMBLY-80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80 ASSEMBLY-2: use of UML 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-2 7. Issue Status
9 Open Issues
x opened
x resolved
8. AOB
Action Items
- Done:
- id=2008-10-30-3 status=done Karmarker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
- Pending:
- id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
- id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
- id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
- id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution to Assembly-37
- id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudo-schemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
- id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
- id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
- id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Minutes
Opening
Roll - quorate with 17 of 22 voting members present
Resolution: Minutes of 2008-10-28 approved w/o
Action Items
Action: id=2008-06-03-6 status=pending Test sub cttee produce test assertions and test artifacts and test harness
Action: id=2008-08-26-2 status=pending Editors to re-consider the application of the resolution to assembly-57
Action: id=2008-09-16-1 status=pending owner="Editors" Add text to justify no operator overloading as described in DaveB's E-mail
Action: id=2008-10-30-1 status=pending Vorthmann to examine the specification and create text that implements the directional resolution
to Assembly-37
Action: id=2008-10-30-3 status=done Karmarker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional resolution to Assembly-36
Action: id=2008-10-30-4 status=pending Editors to fix pseudo-schemas a/r to be consistent with the resolution that resolves Assembly-32
Action: id=2008-10-30-5 status=pending Vorthman to create a proposal relative to potential solution for issue 5
Action: id=2008-10-30-6 status=pending Koenig do the detailed work to implement the resolution to Assembly-60
Action: id=2008-10-30-8 status=pending Freund to draft a conformance statement
Administrivia
Next week's conference call is canceled
Conformance and Test
New Issues
Already opened on 2008-10-21
Edwards introduces his new issue
Motion: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Open issue Assembly-89
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Aupperle Open issue Assembly-89 w/o
Booz introduces his new issue
This issue would apply to services as well
Motion: m:Booz s: Votrhmann Open New Issue Assembly-90
Amendment: m:Karmarkar s: Booz modify text in current motion to include both services and references
Amendment is accepted w/o
New Issue Assembly-91 Details needed for scaConversationViolation
Aupperle introduces his new issue
Edwards introduces his new issue
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Nash Open Assembly-92 w/o
Edwards introduces his new issue
<anish>
simon, like a shared memory queue?
<Simon Nash>
yes, that's an example
<Mike Edwards>
Independent of whether the remotable service is called remotely from outside the process where the service runs or from another
component running in the same process, the data exchange semantics are by-value.
<anish>
i agree with simon, but i think it is unlikely that someone may define a binding.tcpLoopback. They would rather do it in an
app specific way. But i would not want to disallow it. I don't really see an advantage to disallowing.
Motion: m:Edwards s:Aupperly Open New Issue Assembly-93
motion fails with only 13 Ayes of 22 voting members and fails to achieve 2/3 majority
Resolution: m:Edwards s:Nash Close Assembly-93 to close with no action w/o
<Simon Nash>
if local services can't have bindings, they are looking less and less like SCA services
Edwards leads the discussion
AOB
<Simon Nash>
yes, we treat include as a textual cust and paste
<Mike Edwards>
thanks - next meeting in 2 weeks
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