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Subject: Draft minutes for 2009-03-24 are attached


Title: SCA-Assy - 2009-03-24

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

24 MAR 2009

Attendees

Present

Michael Rowley Active Endpoints, Inc. Group Member
fred carter AmberPoint Group Member
Mark Combellack Avaya, Inc. Group Member
Eric Wells Hitachi, Ltd. Group Member
Bryan Aupperle IBM Group Member
David Booz IBM Group Member
Graham Charters IBM Group Member
Vamsavardhana Reddy Chillakuru IBM Group Member
Mike Edwards IBM Group Member
Simon Holdsworth IBM Group Member
Dieter Koenig IBM Group Member
Simon Nash Individual Group Member
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Group Member
Khanderao Kand Oracle Corporation Group Member
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Group Member
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Corporation Group Member
Gilbert Pilz Oracle Corporation Group Member
Sanjay Patil SAP AG* Group Member
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG* Group Member
Scott Vorthmann TIBCO Software Inc. Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Eric Wells

Agenda:

1. Opening

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of SCA-Assembly TC meeting of 10th March 2009
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/31681/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-03-10.html

3. Action Items:

id=2009-03-10-1 status=done Editors to correct version numbering of PR Draft
id=2009-03-10-2 status=pending Log these two new issues as PR comments:
id=2009-03-10-3 status=pending owner="IssuesEditor" Log issues above as PR comments

4. TC Administrivia

CD03 / PRD package submitted to OASIS TC administration

Anticipated Public Review start date of April 3rd


5. New Issues

ASSEMBLY 121: Conformance to OPTIONAL Normative Statements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-121

ASSEMBLY 122: Incorrect usage of MAY Keyword
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-122

ASSEMBLY 123: Definition of element is missing from the sca-core XSD
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-123


6. Existing (Deferred) Issues

ASSEMBLY 115: Remove @requires and @policySets from SCA property elements
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-115

ASSEMBLY 116: Interface compatibility refers to input/output types which is ambiguous when using WSDL 1.1
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-116

ASSEMBLY 117: Definition of compatible superset and subset
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-117

7. AOB

Contents

Topics
[1]  Roll Call
[2]  Agenda
[3]  Minutes of 2009-03-10
[4]  Action Items
[5]  Administrivia
[6]  New Issues
[7]  Existing (Deferred) Issues
[8]  AOB
[9]  Issue Status
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

Done:
id=2009-03-10-1 status=done Editors to correct version numbering of PR Draft
id=2009-03-10-2 status=done Log these two new issues as PR comments
Pending:
id=2009-03-10-3 status=pending owner="IssuesEditor" Log issues above as PR comments
New:
id=2009-03-24-1 status=pending owner="Nash" Review and revise previous E-mail proposal for ASSEMBLY-116

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Eric Wells

<Mike Edwards>
Thank you for volunteering Eric
<Mike Edwards>
much appreciated

Roll Call

16/25 = 64% Quorate

Agenda

No changes

Minutes of 2009-03-10

Approved w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2009-03-10-1 status=done Editors to correct version numbering of PR Draft
Action: id=2009-03-10-2 status=done Log these two new issues as PR comments
Action: id=2009-03-10-3 status=pending owner="IssuesEditor" Log issues above as PR comments

Administrivia

CD03 / PRD package has been submitted to OASIS Admin
MikeE:
Mary says will be officially published on 2009-04-03 (est)

New Issues

ASSEMBLY 121: Conformance to OPTIONAL Normative Statements http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-121
EricW:
Describes issue
Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-121 m=EricW s=SimonN
No discussion - No objections
Resolution: Open Assembly-121 w/o
ASSEMBLY 122: Incorrect usage of MAY Keyword http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-122
EricW:
Descibes Issue
<Mike Edwards>
I'm back - false alarm for my other call
<Dave Booz>
The list of specific points in the spec that discovered are documented in this email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200903/msg00094.html
<Dave Booz>
Scott, can you put that link into the issue in JIRA?
Rowley:
Thinks this is an artifact of our conformance targets - was done intentionally
Chapman:
Schema syntax does not need RFC2119 - other usage is a question
EricW:
We should stick with how we've defined the usage or change the definition of the usage
Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-122 m=EricW s=DaveB
No further discussion - No objections
Resolution: ASSEMBLY-122 is opened w/o
ASSEMBLY 123: Definition of element is missing from the sca-core XSD http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-123
MikeE:
Describes issue
Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-123 m=MikeE s=DaveB
No discussion - No objections
Resolution: Open Assembly-123 w/o
MikeE:
Describes proposal for ASSEMBLY-123
 
...proposal is in JIRA
 
...allows arbitrary document - as needed
<anish>
this is what is proposed: <element name="value" type="sca:ValueType"/>
<anish>
is there any difference with <element name="value" />
<anish>
if you don't decl a type, isn't it xs:anyType ?
MikeE:
Defined as global to avoid multiple definitions - used in several places
 
...(also reduces number of changes to schema)
<anish>
Check XML & consider ASSEMBLY-123 further

Existing (Deferred) Issues

Chapman:
Notes that need 2/3 majority to reopen deferred issues
 
...take additional members onto role now 18/25 = 72%
Motion: Reopen issues 115, 116, 117 & classify as Public Comments m=AnishK s=SimonN
discussion on how & why issue were deferred
No further discussion - No objections
Resolution: Reopen issues 115, 116, 117 & classify as Public Comments w/o
MikeE:
Can we actually discuss any of these today?
ASSEMBLY 115: Remove @requires and @policySets from SCA property elements http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-115
Booz:
This was "sent" to the Policy TC but they have not discussed this yet - (Testing work is higher priority
<Dave Booz>
ASSEMBLY 116: Interface compatibility refers to input/output types which is ambiguous when using WSDL 1.1 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-116
<Mike Edwards>
Email from Simon Nash:
<Mike Edwards>
Nash:
Could discuss this if OK
Nash:
Example is Java , but thinks this could apply for other C&I
Nash:
Describes process to generate WSDL interfaces & notes there will also be a Java i/f from introspection
Booz:
Agrees with SimonN's use case but not sure how common it will be
Nash:
This drags superset/subset issues in three separate places
discussion on use cases - common & corner
Nash:
Made a proposal some time ago
 
...will repost to E-mail list
 
...will also check proposal covers difference cases discussed
Action: owner=Nash Review and revise previous E-mail proposal for ASSEMBLY-116

AOB

Chapman:
Reduce meetings back to 1 hour?
Straggeler Role
COB 8:48AM PDT

Issue Status

Opened = 6 Closed = 0

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