Draft minutes from 2008-08-11 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2009-08-11

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

11 AUG 2009

Attendees

Present

Mark Combellack	Avaya, Inc.	Group Member
Dale Moberg	Axway Software*	Group Member
Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Dieter Koenig	IBM	Group Member
Simon Nash	Individual	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Khanderao Kand	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Ashok Malhotra	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jonathan Maron	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Gilbert Pilz	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Aninda Sengupta	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Sanjay Patil	SAP AG*	Group Member
Najeeb Andrabi	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Murty Gurajada	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

Introductions
Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/33728/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202009-08-04.html

3. Action Items:

id=2009-08-04-1 status=done owner="SimonN" Add wording to describe defaults for multiplicity promotion to ASSEMBLY-136 proposal

4. TC Administrivia

a) 1st Public Review of the Assembly Model spec ended June 23

Public comments list:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly-comment/

b) Looking for Proposals for all open issues - see Item 8 of this agenda


5. Test Assertions and TestCases

Public Review draft has been voted and sent to TC Administration for external posting.
TC Administration.require RDDL files for new namespaces


6. Existing Issues with Proposals

ASSEMBLY 136: Promoting a reference with multiplicity 1..n and targets should default to 0..n
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-136

Latest proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200908/msg00084.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/33722/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd03-Rev2%20Issue136v4.doc
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/33723/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd03-Rev2%20Issue136v4.pdf


ASSEMBLY 144: ASM50030 and ASM50031 (CD03) are duplicates
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-144

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY 147: Assembly Specification does not define the Component Type of a Composite used as an Implementation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-147

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-150: Some TestCases can only be implemented using specific implementation Languages
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-150

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-155: Namespace problems in C/C++ .componentType files
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-155

Proposal is in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-156: Spec is unclear if callback binding names need to be distinct from forward binding names
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-156

Proposal is in JIRA


7. New Issues

ASSEMBLY 159: Align Test Assertion Document with latest Draft Assembly Spec
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-159

ASSEMBLY 160: Section 12 does not require an SCA Runtime to raise an error in all error situations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-160

ASSEMBLY 161: @callbackInterface attribute spelled incorrectly in TestComposite54. TestComposite55, TestComposite65
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-161

ASSEMBLY 162: Remove Contribution ASM_8003 from the Test Suite
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-162

ASSEMBLY 163: TestSuite - TestComposite63 has a wrong Service name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-163

ASSEMBLY 164: Test_ASM_8004 artifacts have errors relating to Java package names
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-164

ASSEMBLY 165: Poor wording in descriptions of TestCases ASM_8009 & ASM_8018
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-165

ASSEMBLY 166: Test_ASM_9003.composite contains an incorrect Web service URI
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-166

ASSEMBLY 167: TestComposite63.composite contains an incorrect name
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-167

ASSEMBLY 168: Errors in ASM_12013_TestCase artifacts
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-168

ASSEMBLY 169: Errors in Artifacts for ASM_12005_TestCase
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-169


8. Existing Issues without proposals

ASSEMBLY-132: Microsoft technical comment about the SCA Assembly Model specification #1
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-132

ASSEMBLY-149: Few comments from Siemens
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-149

ASSEMBLY 138: Assembly specification unclear on Contribution vs Deployment - when can errors in artifacts be reported?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-138

ASSEMBLY 139: What is a constrainingType file supposed to look like?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-139

ASSEMBLY 140: Need TAs and testcases for property/@file and property/@many=true
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-140

ASSEMBLY 142: Need a normative statement for @autowire inheritance
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-142

ASSEMBLY 143: There are no conformance statements in section 8.5 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-143

ASSEMBLY 145: Unmarked MUST on line 1030 (CD03)
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-145

ASSEMBLY-157: Make support for constrainingType an optional compliance point
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-157

ASSEMBLY 158: Composite property example contradicts spec definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-158

ASSEMBLY 80: Create an Event Processing Model for SCA
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-80

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  Administrivia

[4]  Existing Issues

[5]  ASSEMBLY 136: Promoting a reference with multiplicity 1..n and targets should default to 0..n http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-136

[6]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Done:

id=2009-08-04-1 status=done owner="SimonN" Add wording to describe defaults for multiplicity promotion to ASSEMBLY-136 proposal

New:

id=2009-08-11-1 status=pending Nash to produce a revision to his proposal for the resolution of Assembly-136

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Resolutions

• 2009-08-11-1: Minutes of 2009-08-04 approved w/o

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Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

Roll - quorate with 21 of 25 voting members present

Agenda - agreed

Resolution: Minutes of 2009-08-04 approved w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2009-08-04-1 status=done owner="SimonN" Add wording to describe defaults for multiplicity promotion to ASSEMBLY-136 proposal

Administrivia

<Sanjay>

are we going to see some new member activity? :-)

Still have some proposals for open issues at item eight in the agenda

Edwards:

Eventing discussions will occu during the Testing Tome slot which will be a full TC call

Patil:

I thought that the issue was still in play at the TC to decide how to deal with eventing?

Sanjay argues that there ought to be more time during the regular call to decide how to handle the issues surrounding eventing

<jeff.mischkinsky>

i can attend, but i think waiting a week is reasonable

Edwards:

Since the meeting was called with short notice, tomorrows call will be scratched and re-scheduled for the following week.

Existing Issues

ASSEMBLY 136: Promoting a reference with multiplicity 1..n and targets should default to 0..n http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-136

proposal linked by the agenda

<Mike Edwards>

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/33723/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd03-Rev2%20Issue136v4.pdf

<Dave Booz>

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200908/msg00093.html

Nash discusses his proposal

<anish>

+1 to that

<anish>

that == using a different name than nonOverridable

<anish>

what about just overridable ?

<Dave Booz>

default value has to be false

<Dave Booz>

and mean replace

<anish>

why can't the default be true ?

<Dave Booz>

the absence of the attribute is not compatible with a default of true, IMHO

<anish>

dave, r u thinking java where boolean default is false?

<Dave Booz>

that too

<anish>

i would be ok with fixing a single unconditional default

<Bryan Aupperle>

For Dave's point (3), how about @promoteAddsTargets (default = false)?

Motion: m:Bob s:Nash Resolve Assembly-136 with the proposal in the agenda

<Martin C>

tick tock

Time expired

Action: Nash to produce a revision to his proposal for the resolution of Assembly-136

AOB

straggler roll

<Dave Booz>

for the record, I'm not prepared to vote for the proposal without the defaults

<Dave Booz>

but i expect to get out voted

adjourned

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