draft minutes from 2010-07-02 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-07-20

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

20 JUL 2010

Attendees

Present

Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Diane Jordan	IBM	Group Member
Peter Niblett	IBM	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Gilbert Pilz	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Sanjay Patil	SAP AG*	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Sabin Ielceanu	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Eric Johnson	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Scott Vorthmann	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Eric Wells

Agenda:

1. Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38641/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202010-07-13.html


3. Action Items

ACTION On Chairs: To communicate outcome of Public Review comments to issue raisers


4. TC Administrivia

a) Consider the need for a F2F meeting relating to the 1.2 specification, specifically the Event Processing material.
Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00027.html


5. New Issues

ASSEMBLY-236: Add Test assertions and cases for ASM40012, ASM50045 and ASM50046
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-236

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00031.html

ASSEMBLY-237: Remove sca-1,1.xsd content
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-237

ASSEMBLY-234: Add support for WSDL 2.0
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-234

ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

Recent discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00026.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00022.html


6. Consider next steps for SCA Asssembly v1.1

Since both the SCA Assembly 1.1 specification and the Assembly V1.1 Test Suite materials have completed second public review,
we should now consider the next steps for V1.1.

An updated version of the Assembly spec containing all the changes implied by the resolved issues since CD05 was published is here:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38616/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd05-rev1.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38615/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd05-rev1.doc


Is V1.1 done and dusted now?


7. Implementation Type Document & Test Suite Adaptation Document

Now both at CD01:

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38711/sca-assembly-1.1-impl-type-documentation-cd01.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38711/sca-assembly-1.1-impl-type-documentation-cd01.pdf

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38713/sca-assembly-1.1-testsuite-adaptation-cd01.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38714/sca-assembly-1.1-testsuite-adaptation-cd01.odt

Consider next steps

8. 1.2 Specification Open Issues

ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201004/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01-issue-227.doc

Latest discussion (no new posts since last meeting):


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

No Proposal


9. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Adminstrivia

[3]  New Issues

[4]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

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Resolutions

• 2010-07-20-1: Minutes of 2010-07-13 accepted w/o
• 2010-07-20-2: ASSEMBLY-236 is opened w/o
• 2010-07-20-3: Resolve ASSEMBLY-236 with TA and TC documents above, as amended editorially
• 2010-07-20-4: Open ASSEMBLY-237
• 2010-07-20-5: Open ASSEMBLY-235 w/o

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Minutes

Scribe: Eric Wells

Opening

Roll call 15/19 = 79% - quorate

<MartinC>

both Simon Holdsworth and Sanjay taken off LOA so roll is 16 out of 20 (80%)

Agenda - accpeted as is

Minutes of 2010-07-13

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/38641/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%202010-07-13.html

No comments

Resolution: Minutes of 2010-07-13 accepted w/o

Action Items

Chairs to communicate outcome of Public Review comments to issue raisers

MikeE:

Chiars are working on this

Adminstrivia

F2F Meeting

Anish:

Offers to host in Portland, OR during week of 16th Aug.

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00027.html

Anish:

Dates could be changed if needed, except week after (23rd) can't do.

General consensus is 16th is not ideal, but later is worse

Can folks summarize to E-mail if this can work for them?

New Issues

ASSEMBLY-236: Add Test assertions and cases for ASM40012, ASM50045 and ASM50046
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-236

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00031.html

Aupperle:

Introduces issue

 

...Issue ASSEMBLT-221 introduces some new normative statements - need TA's & TC's

Motion: Open issue ASSEMBLY-236 m=BryanA s=DaveB

No discussion - no objection

Resolution: ASSEMBLY-236 is opened w/o

MikeE:

Made proposal but had missed TA's - now added

Mike reviews proposal

<Mike Edwards>

Proposal for Test Assertions:

OASIS site is dead - not responding

<Mike Edwards>

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/38720/sca-assembly-1.1-test-assertions-cd02-Issue236.pdf

Gil:

Use web conf tools to upload doc to chatroom

No discussion on TA's

<Mike Edwards>

http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/browse/wsvn/sca-assembly/TestCases/General/src/main/resources/complexProperties.xml

No discussion of TC's

(Some editorial corrections)

Motion: Resolve ASSEMBLY-236 with TA and TC documents above, as amended editorially m=MikeE s=BryanA

No discussion - no objection

Resolution: Resolve ASSEMBLY-236 with TA and TC documents above, as amended editorially

ASSEMBLY-237: Remove sca-1,1.xsd content
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-237

Aupperle:

Introduces issue

Aupperle:

OASIS staff have objected to the schema - despite fact that it had been done this was before

MartinC:

Could we just remove Appendix A?

(Chair chided for considering proposal befor accepting issue)

Anish:

Schemas will be approved at different times form spec...

 

...there needs to be some way of syncing spec with schema

Aupperle:

BUT we can't update docs once publishe so schema will be out of date

.. there's a hole in the OASIS procedures

MartinC:

Agreed, and this is beig revised.

discussion of what is possible at present and what should be possible

No further discussion

Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-237 m=BryanA s=Anish

No objections

<MartinC>

we could put these include files explicitly in the normative references

Resolution: Open ASSEMBLY-237

Edwards:

Two previous attempts to open ASSEMBLY-34 and ASSEMBLY-235

 

...not good to have unopened issues hangging around

ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL 1.1 mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

Recent discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00026.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201007/msg00022.html

EricJ:

Argues again in favour of WSDL 2.0 & reviews recent discussion

<MartinC>

iiop all over again!

Aupperle:

Some work going through OSG at present but not sure how usefult this is (timescale, etc)

FYI - five minutes remaining

MartinC:

If this IS an issue it would apply to 1.2 AND 1.1

EricJ:

Was in OSOA but got dropped somehow

Motion: Open ASSEMBLY-235 m=EricJ s=BryanA

No further discussion - no objections

Resolution: Open ASSEMBLY-235 w/o

AOB

<Mike Edwards>

Thanks for scribing, Eric

<MartinC>

i wont be on the call next week as ill be up in the air

PeterN:

Would like to request LOA for next three weeks

Chairs: Need to send E-mail

<Mike Edwards>

ok, thanks for letting me know, Martin

Straggler roll

COB 9:02AM PDT

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