Draft minutes of 2010-12-14 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Assy - 2010-12-14

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OASIS SCA-Assembly TC

14 DEC 2010

Attendees

Present

Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Bryan Aupperle	IBM	Group Member
Mike Edwards	IBM	Group Member
Simon Holdsworth	IBM	Group Member
Diane Jordan	IBM	Group Member
Peter Niblett	IBM	Group Member
Jeff Estefan	Jet Propulsion Laboratory:*	Group Member
Martin Chapman	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Andreas Egloff	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Ashok Malhotra	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Plamen Pavlov	SAP AG*	Group Member
Eric Johnson	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Danny van der Rijn	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

Martin Chapman
Mike Edwards

Scribe

Bob Freund

Agenda:

1. Intro

Roll call
Scribe confirmation
Agenda bashing

2. Approval of minutes of previous SCA-Assembly TC meeting

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/40520/SCA%20Assembly%20minutes%20201.-1.-07.html

3. Action Items

id=201.-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227
id=201.-1.-1.-1.status=done Karmarker to develop proposal for the resolution of Assembly-251.
id=201.-1.-07-1.status=done Edwards to emit an icmp ping to Microsoft and Siemens
id=201.-1.-07-2 status=pending Johnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state of this issue
id=201.-1.-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-239

4. TC Administrivia

None

5. Open Issues (1.1.

ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1.: SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252

Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00042.html

Latest news:
Siemens have responded that they have not used the 2 documents to write their own implementation type document so far.
Microsoft responded asking a couple of questions and have promised a full response.


6. New Issues (1.2)

None

7.1.2 Specification Open Issues (1.2)

ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-251. [1.2] There is a need to restrict the Cardinality of connections to Channels
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-251.

Latest Discussion:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00024.html


ASSEMBLY-227: Promotion of consumers and producers undermines composability
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-227

Proposal
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.04/msg00044.html
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37273/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01.issue-227.pdf
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37272/sca-assembly-1.2-spec-wd01.issue-227.doc

Latest discussions:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00023.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00022.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00021.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00020.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg0001..html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg0001..html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg0001..html


ASSEMBLY-235: Remotable interface compatibility should not be restricted to a WSDL1.1.mapping
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-235

Outline Proposal:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/201.1./msg00023.html


ASSEMBLY-239: (1.2): Business data filter element needs better name, definition
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-239

Proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-233: Define how Policy works for SCA Eventing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-233

No Proposal

ASSEMBLY-243: Is the default channel configurable?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-243

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-244: How to enable extensibility to multiple bindings on a channel
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-244

Outline proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-245: Adopt the WS-RA Event Description specification to declare SCA Event Types
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-245

Proposal in JIRA

ASSEMBLY-246: Provide Location within SCA Contributions for eventType Declarations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-246

Proposal in JIRA


ASSEMBLY-247: What are the requirements on an SCA Binding for eventing purposes?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-247

No proposal

ASSEMBLY-248: RFC21.9 wording and conformance statement need to be added for event processing
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-248

No proposal


8. AOB

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  Administrivia | /dev/null

[4]  Open Issues against v 1.1

[5]  ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252

[6]  Issues against v1.2

[7]  ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250

[8]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Done:

id=2010-11-16-1 status=done Karmarker to develop proposal for the resolution of Assembly-251

id=2010-12-07-1 status=done Edwards to emit an icmp ping to Microsoft and Siemens

Pending:

id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227

id=2010-12-07-2 status=pending Johnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state of this issue

id=2010-12-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-239

New:

id=2010-12-14-1 status=pending Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline

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Resolutions

• 2010-12-14-1: minutes of 2010-12-07 approved w/o

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Minutes

Scribe: Bob Freund

Opening

Roll - quorate with 13 of 20 voting members present.

Agenda - bashed agreeably

Resolution: minutes of 2010-12-07 approved w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2010-09-22-8 status=pending owner="EricJ" produce new proposal for ASSEMBLY-227

Action: id=2010-11-16-1 status=done Karmarker to develop proposal for the resolution of Assembly-251

Action: id=2010-12-07-1 status=done Edwards to emit an icmp ping to Microsoft and Siemens

Action: id=2010-12-07-2 status=pending Johnson to shake the trees on further comments relative to Assembly-235 and summarize the state of this issue

Action: id=2010-12-07-3 status=pending Johnson to develop alternate proposals on the name of the element in the proposal for the resolution of Assembly-239

Administrivia | /dev/null

Open Issues against v 1.1

ASSEMBLY-252: (v1.1): SCA Runtime Conformance Language & Normative References
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-252

Edwards:

Siemens responded that they approved of the issue resolution but also said that they have not as yet used the documents.

 

...Microsoft have asked a few questions an have promised a more complete response

<EricW>

Just to be awkward, it could be argued that we need at least one implementation that uses the Implementation Types and Test Adaption documents!

Action: Edwards to send a note to Microsoft setting a response deadline

Issues against v1.2

ASSEMBLY-250: Need an equivalent to "autowire" for the eventing world http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-250

Johnson takes us through his proposal

<anish>

auto-wire to an auto-channel?

<MartinC>

in the absence of other info, wire to the default channel

<anish>

i don't view channels as concrete either

<Mike Edwards>

bad news for the concrete manufacturers ;-)

<MartinC>

was this issue openned? if so Jira is out of date

<Mike Edwards>

you're right Martin - the JIRA is out of date - I'll do a triage after the meeting and fix things

<Mike Edwards>

if this one is missed there will probably be others

<Mike Edwards>

the issues all got opened or (in one case) closed

<anish>

I'm looking at an African elephant

<anish>

or more precisely at the ear of an african elephant ;-)

This issue seems like a distraction to me

<EricW>

+1 to Danny - it seems to me there's a big difference of concepts in the whole SCA eventing space

Would anybody object if we just closed this one and moved on?

<anish>

ericw/danny, that is why we kept channels very abstract

time, gentlemen

<EricW>

It seems to me we are overlaoding the basic concepts and making them quite different from the original scope

<MartinC>

right, this is more about delayed binding to a channel

AOB

straggler roll

adjourned

[End of Minutes]
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