[12:41] anish didn't change anything after redial
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Subject: Raw minutes for 5 Mar.
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference: Meeting Number: * 913929 * (press * before and after the digits) Phone numbers: Austria = Vienna 026822056419 Belgium = Brussels 022901709 China Toll Free = China North 108007121722, China South 108001201722 Denmark = Copenhagen 32714982 France = Paris 0170994364, Lyon 0426840196, Marseilles 0488915310 Germany = Berlin 030726167296, Frankfurt 069710445413, Hamburg 040809020620, Munich 089244432767, Stuttgart 0711490813212, Dusseldorf 021154073845 India Toll Free = 0008001006703 Ireland = Dublin 014367612 Italy = Milan 0230413007, Rome 06452108288, Turin 01121792100 Japan = Tokyo 0357675037 Netherlands = Amsterdam 0207965349 Portugal = Lisbon 211200415 Russia Toll Free = 81080022074011 Spain = Barcelona: 934923140, Madrid: 917889793 Sweden = Stockholm 0850520404 Switzerland = Geneva 0225927186 UK Toll Free = 08003581667 UK Toll = London 02071542988, Manchester 01612500379, Birmingham 01212604587 USA Toll Free = 18665289390 USA Toll = 19543344789
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: Agenda
[12:00] Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening Introductions Roll call Scribe assignment Top 10 on the scribe list: Nimish Hathalia TIBCO Software Inc. Plamen Pavlov SAP AG Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited Bryan Aupperle IBM Piotr Przybylski IBM Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Simon Nash Individual David Booz IBM Agenda bashing 2a. Re-approval of the minutes from 19th February (Fixed date in the title of the minutes, and the date of the minutes that were approved) http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/31457/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202009-02-19.doc 2b. Approval of the minutes from 26th February http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/31459/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202009-02-26.doc 3. Actions 20090211-4 [General] Write up HTTP binding use cases 20090212-2 [Eric Johnson] produce an updated proposal for BINDINGS-54 20090219-1 [Anish Karmarkar] Raise an issue against assembly regarding interface compatibility 20090226-1 [Simon Nash] Track assembly issue for interface compatibility and propose an appropriate resolution for BINDINGS-23 20090226-2 [Anish Karmarkar] Propose resolution for BINDINGS-25 20090226-3 [Simon Holdsworth] Propose resolution for BINDINGS-39 20090226-4 [Eric Johnson] Propose resolution for BINDINGS-43 20090226-5 [Piotr Przybylski] Propose resolution for BINDINGS-45 20090226-6 [Simon Holdsworth] Propose resolution for BINDINGS-48 20090226-7 [Simon Holdsworth] Propose resolution for BINDINGS-60 4. New Issues Please note, as per resolution on 9th October 2008, new issues received on the mailing list after Noon GMT 1st November can only be opened using the same voting rules as re-opening a closed issue (2/3 majority of a full TC vote) No new issues 5. Open Issue Summary/Schedule Discuss ownership/deferral of issues. Current schedule: Public review drafts to be completed by 5th March, with TC vote on 12th March Test assertions complete by end of March, test cases by end of April Issues with proposed resolutions: 5 Issues with identified owner, no resolution: 4 Issues with no identified owner: 0 Survey outlook for issues with no proposed resolution (marked with * in this list) Simon Holdsworth: 39, 48, 60* Eric Johnson: 43*, 54 Anish Karmarkar: 2, 25* Simon Nash: 23* Piotr Przybylski: 45 6. Open Issue Discussion http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-45 Update binding.jca spec for wireFormat/operationSelection elements Raiser: Simon Holdsworth, owner: Piotr Przybylski Status: Proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00018.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-48 How are mayProvide intents on bindings satisfied Raiser: Ashok Malhotra, owner: Simon Holdsworth Status: Proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00005.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-2 How should SCA callback semantics be carried over Web Services? Raiser: Simon Nash, owner: Anish Karmarkar Status: Proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200902/msg00126.html Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00015.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-54 Endpoint URI algorithm is unclear Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Eric Johnson Status: Proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200902/msg00129.html Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00016.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-39 JMS callback specification does not cater for callbacks using other bindings Raiser: Simon Holdsworth, owner Simon Holdsworth Status: Proposed resolution: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00004.html Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00019.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-25 Is it required that every implementation of binding.ws support the soap intent? Raiser: Anish Karmarkar, owner: Anish Karmarkar Status: No current proposal. Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00013.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-23 @wsdlElement definition needs clarification on "equivalent" and use of WSDL 2.0 constructs Raiser: Eric Johnson, owner: Simon Nash Status: Specific resolution text required http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-43 Update binding.ws spec for wireFormat/operationSelection elements Raiser: Simon Holdsworth, owner: Anish Karmarkar Status: Specific resolution text required. http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-60 JMS Default wire format insufficient to cover real world usage Raiser: Simon Holdsworth, owner: Simon Holdsworth Status: No proposal 7. AOB
[12:06] Dave Booz anish, do you want the text or xml form of the bpel minutes?
[12:07] anish: i just need the text
[12:07] anish: i got it now
[12:07] anish: but if you can send the raw log to the list, that would be great
[12:07] anish: in case my editor/browser/machine crashes
[12:08] Dave Booz: will do
[12:08] Bryan Aupperle: Scribe: Bryan Aupperle
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes (19 Feb.)
[12:10] Bryan Aupperle: Approved W/O
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Approval of Minutes (26 Feb.)
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Approved W/O
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Action Items
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: 20090211-4 - Ongoing
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: 20090212-2 - Done
[12:11] Bryan Aupperle: 20090219-1 - Done
[12:12] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-1 - Assembly Issue has been deferred
[12:13] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N. Should we defer this issue? Is this a problem wrt the Public Review?
[12:14] Bryan Aupperle: Martin: Our issue list is our own business and does not impact Public Review
[12:14] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: We could add a note pointing to Assembly
[12:14] Bryan Aupperle: Martin: We should say nothing.
[12:15] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N. I will work on some proposed wording.
[12:15] Bryan Aupperle: AI is left ongoing
[12:16] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-2 - e-Mail sent to list with status. There is a dependency on issue 54, which is open.
[12:17] Bryan Aupperle: There is a revised proposal that has been sent. AI is ongoing
[12:17] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-3 - Done
[12:18] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-4 - Ongoing
[12:18] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-5 - Done
[12:18] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-6
[12:18] Bryan Aupperle: 20090226-7 - Ongoing
[12:21] anish hate DST
[12:22] Bryan Aupperle: Additional meeting on 11 Mar at 12:00 EDT/16:00 BT.
[12:23] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Issue 45
[12:23] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-45
[12:23] Bryan Aupperle: Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00018.html
[12:24] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H. reviews proposal
[12:26] Bryan Aupperle: Motion: (Piotr, second Mike): Resolve Issue 45 as proposed with typo corrected.
[12:27] Bryan Aupperle: Resolution: Motion passes w/o
[12:27] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Issue 48
[12:27] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-48
[12:27] Bryan Aupperle: Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00005.html
[12:29] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H. reviews the proposal
[12:30] Eric Johnson: With respect to the proposal "NON_PERSISTENT" should change to "nonpersistent".
[12:30] Eric Johnson: ... to match our newly adopted naming conventions.
[12:31] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N. There are two statements about intents. First has a MUST, second only a may, why not a MAY?
[12:31] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H. this is simply stating a fact, not attempting to be normative.
[12:33] Bryan Aupperle: Anish: Concern about mayProvide. Is this statment proper since correct configuration is needed.
[12:34] Bryan Aupperle: Dave clarifies use of mayProvide
[12:35] Bryan Aupperle: Mike since there is a configuration options that prevents atLeastOnce from being satisfied, then it should not be included in the mayProvide list.
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H. More work is needed on this.
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Issue 39
[12:36] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-39
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00004.html
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00019.html
[12:37] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H. reviews proposal
[12:38] anish do folks get static when SimonH talks?
[12:38] Dave Booz no
[12:38] anish: k, must be me then. will redial in
[12:41] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N.: This seems like only half a resolution. Do not want to outlaw a different callback protocol. Prefer only discussing use of JMS for the callback.
[12:41] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H: Proposal attempts to do that.
[12:41] anish didn't change anything after redial
[12:42] anish everybody else sounds fine, just SimonH (faint and staticy)
[12:42] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N.: Proposal introduces a new term without adequately defining it.
[12:42] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Agree we should not outlaw a different callback protocol, but concerned about text.
[12:43] Bryan Aupperle: Simon H. This requires more work.
[12:43] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: Issue 54
[12:43] Bryan Aupperle: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-54
[12:43] Bryan Aupperle: Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200902/msg00129.html
[12:44] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00016.html
[12:44] Bryan Aupperle: Eric comments on proposal and e-Mail from Mike.
[12:45] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion on the e-Mail
[12:49] Mike Edwards: * I have a comment to make about the proposal for Issue 39 once we have finished with this current issue *
[12:50] Bryan Aupperle: Eric highlights change on line 266.
[12:51] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N. reviews comments in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/200903/msg00024.html
[12:52] anish: i also had some comments, which i would like to go thru. Eric did address those, but not sure i understand all of them
[12:57] Bryan Aupperle: Simon N. This gets impacted by issue 23.
[12:59] Bryan Aupperle: Eric: We should resolve issue 23 first.
[13:00] Bryan Aupperle: Eric will produce an updated proposal for Issue 54
[13:00] Eric Johnson: (That would be an action item, I think)
[13:01] Bryan Aupperle: Mike: Proposal for issue 39, the proposal only needs to address JMS binding details. If the callback via a different protocol, then there is a separate binding, and this spec does not need to address it.
[13:02] Bryan Aupperle: Simon, but if the JMS replyTo is used, then how does this carry over to the callback prtocol?
[13:02] Bryan Aupperle: Discussion to continue on mail list.
[13:02] Bryan Aupperle: Topic: AOB
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