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Subject: Raw chat log of 2011-03-17 call
Simon Holdsworth: Audio conference *UPDATED 10th Jan 2011* Participant Code: 7059536 USA Toll-Free 888-426-6840 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 888-426-6840 end_of_the_skype_highlighting USA Caller Paid 215-861-6239 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 215-861-6239 end_of_the_skype_highlighting UNITED KINGDOM Toll-Free 0800-368-0638 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 0800-368-0638 end_of_the_skype_highlighting UNITED KINGDOM Caller Paid 0-20-30596451 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 0-20-30596451 end_of_the_skype_highlighting Ireland Toll-Free 1-800-943-427 Ireland Caller Paid 0-1-5264424 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 0-1-5264424 end_of_the_skype_highlighting Bulgaria Toll-Free 00800-117-4514 Other access codes can be found at: https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=7059536&accessNumber=02030596451 Simon Holdsworth: Agenda Simon Holdsworth: 1. Opening Introductions Scribe assignment Top of the scribe list: Plamen Pavlov SAP AG David Booz IBM Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation Tom Rutt Fujitsu Limited Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation Bryan Aupperle IBM Eric Johnson TIBCO Software Inc. Agenda bashing 2. Approval of the minutes from 10 March: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/41418/SCA%20Bindings%20minutes%202011-03-10.doc 3. Actions 20110310-01 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the JMS Testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix 20110310-02 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the Web services testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix 20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html 4. New Issues http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-149 There's no linkage between the JMS binding spec and the test cases document 5. Open Issues http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-142 Missing links to test artifacts (WS) Owner: Editors Status: Resolution proposed, comments made. Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00020.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-143 Missing links to test artifacts (JMS) Owner: Editors Status: No proposed resolution, pending resolution of BINDINGS-145 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-146 WS Binding Testcases document has no conformance section Owner: Anish Karmarkar Status: Resolution proposed, comments made. Latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00020.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-147 Conformance Statement missing for the JMS Binding Assertions Owner: Simon Holdsworth Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00036.html http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BINDINGS-148 Conformance Statement missing for the Web Services Binding Assertions Owner: Simon Holdsworth Status: Proposed resolution in email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00037.html 6. AOB Mike Edwards: sorry - my wife's got the home phone at the moment Mike Edwards: join in a couple of minutes Simon Holdsworth: on proposal to 146, following reference to test suite: Simon Holdsworth: The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can be found here: http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip Simon Holdsworth: Currently 30% voting members present, need 3 more for quorum Mike Edwards: still waiting for wife to relinquish phone anish: Scribe: Anish Karmarkar anish: 40% of voting members in attendance anish: not quorate anish: Topic: AI review anish: 20110310-01 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the JMS Testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix 20110310-02 [Simon Holdsworth] Prepare a version of the Web services testcase document with the test assertions as an appendix 20110310-03 [Editors] Make the change to the JMS spec doc + Testcases doc described in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00007.html anish: 20110310-01 DONE anish: 30110310-02 DONE anish: s/3011/2011/ anish: 20110310-03 PENDING anish: Review of proposals for open issues anish: 1) Issue 142 is linked to 146 anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bindings/201103/msg00015.html anish: 2) Issue 143 is is JMS equivalent of 142 anish: 3) 146 is about the conformance section in the test case doc anish: 1) Add related works link to zip file with a description The Test Suite artifacts relating to this document can be found here: http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip 2) Replace conformance section with The artifacts contained in the http://docs.oasis-open.org/opencsa/sca-bindings/sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases-cd01.zip are considered to be authoritative and take precedence over the artifacts described in this document. This specification defines two targets for conformance: a) WS Binding Testcases b) Web Service Callback (WSCB) Testcases An implementation that claims to conform to the requirements of the WS Binding Testcases MUST be able to run all test cases in Section 2.1 and Section 2.2, producing the 'Expected Output'. An implementation that claims to conform to the WSCB Testcases MUST be able to run all tests in Section 2.3, producing the 'Expected Output' of each test case. anish: Simon: would prefer a normative reference instead of an HTTP URL anish: Mike: the alternative is to include the zip file URL in the normative reference section, which is messy anish: Simon: happy to just use the file name in the conformance section and we already have the URL in the related works section Simon Holdsworth: Replace that URL with sca-wsbinding-1.1-testcases.zip anish: ... and the file name would not have 'cd01' in it. The latest version should be sufficient anish: Mike: fine with it anish: Anish: in other places we have been careful to point to specific versions anish: Simon: related works section would point to a specific zip file anish: ... but the conformance section would point to the zip file in an abstract way anish: ... in the JMS binding when we refer to the XSD file we do it in a similar way anish: Topic: issues 147 and 148 anish: Simon: this is about the TAs. The proposal is to merge it with TCs. I have a proposal for this. Comments received on the poposal. anish: ... JMS binding TA, we have cut and pasted the normative statements. With the merge, this is no longer necessary. No other TAs do that. anish: ... was considered to be an interim steps anish: s/steps/step/ anish: ... I would like to remove them and product an updated proposal anish: Simon: for the WS TA doc there are comments that should be removed anish: Anish: those comments were for the TC and should be removed before publication anish: ACTION: go through Simon's proposal for WS binding TA/TC and see if all the comments in the TAs have been addressed anish: Mike: going through the comments, some of them are instructions to the TC writer, whereas others are potentially issues and should be raised as such anish: ... and a whole set of blank comments anish: Simon: the initial step would be to check that I got the right version of the TA doc for the merge anish: ... but fairly certain that I did anish: Topic: new issues anish: Simon: one new issue, JMS version of a WS binding issue anish: Simon: do we need a JMS equivalent of issue 146 anish: ACTION: file a new JMS equivalent of issue 146 anish: Simon: since we are not quorate, can't do more. anish: Simon: AOB? anish: no AOB anish: Meeting adjurned anish: s/adjurned/adjourned/
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