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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2009-11-12 telcon


Attached.
Thanks to Ashok for scribing.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-11-12

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

12 NOV 2009

Attendees

Present
Mike Edwards, (IBM)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Ashok Malhotra

Contents

Topics
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:

Resolutions


Minutes

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

<Sanjay>
I will join in a few minutes
<Mike Edwards>
so we can check out the quality of the music on hold
<Mike Edwards>
No Anish today I assume
<Sanjay>
Ashok, do you know if Anish is going to join the call?
 
I doubt it, Sanjay
 
He is not online
<Sanjay>
Oops! I will still need a few mins to get there
<Mike Edwards>
He is at the F2F in Portland - he's hosting it!"!
<Mike Edwards>
we look very thin on the ground today
 
Yes, may have quorum problems
<Sanjay>
Let us use:
<Sanjay>
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<Mike Edwards>
ah - it's Anish's number!
 
Right! I could have enabled Anish's number
<Sanjay>
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of 2009-11-05 minutes
5. Review of Action Items
#0109 Mike Edwards Send instructions for running the Assembly tests
#0115 Mike Edwards Prepare an updated version of the proposal for issue 58 (rewriting section 2.1.1 to remove the nested-if)
#0117 Danny Create a proposal for the 0..1 case (issue 53)
#0118 Danny Create a new issue regarding idem-potency of initialization
Done
6. New Issues
a) Issue 61 Need to deal with variable initialization not being idempotent
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-61
7. Testing
MikeE to send instructions for running the tests
Here is a rough break up of work for creating the test cases. More volunteers are appreciated.
<Sanjay>
SBL-TA-1001 to SBL-TA-2018
Anish : SBL-TA-3001 to SBL-TA-3026
8. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 53 BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 how are they supposed to work?
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-53
Issue was resolved on 9/17/09
Latest email discussion - http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00012.html
b) Issue 58 - Need to add Capability to indicate that a PartnerLink should be ignored when introspecting the ComponentType of a BPEL process
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-58
Email discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200909/msg00016.html
Awaiting a new proposal from MikeE based on 2009-10-29 concall discussions
c) Issue 59 - How does a SCA Extended WS-BPEL Runtime deal with a non-conformant BPEL process?
Outline of a proposal in Jira
Proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200911/msg00008.html
d) Issue 50 - Need more examples in the specification
http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-50
no proposal (deferred)
9. AOB
-----------------------------------------
Scribe list:
* Kand, Khanderao (Last scribed: 2009-07-23): 6
* van der Rijn, Danny (Last scribed: 9/3/9): 11
* Rowley, Mr Michael (Last scribed: 2009-08-06): 8
* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (Last scribed: 2009-10-01): 13
* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (Last scribed: 2009-10-0 : 12
* Anish Karmarkar (Last scribed: 2009-10-15): 2
* Chapman, Dr Martin (Last scribed: 10/22/09): 10
* Edwards, Mike (Last scribed: 10/29/09): 1
* Koenig, Mr Dieter (Last scribed: 11/05/09): 13
<Sanjay>
I am on the call now - anybody else planning to join?
<Sanjay>
+Mike, +Ashok, +Najeeb, +Sanjay

Scribe: Ashok Malhotra

 
Agenda accepted w/o change
 
Review of open Action Items
 
All action items still open
 
Agenda item 8 -- issue discussion
 
a) Issue 53 BPEL Process: References with Multiplicity 0..1 how are they supposed to work?
MikeE:
Says 53 is resolved but something was left out
 
... if multiplicity was 0 you would get an exception which you would have to deal with.
 
... bit of a mess
sanjay:
Danny was proposing defining an extension activity
MikeE:
I would be ok with that
 
... look at thread next. That's a response from me to Danny's suggestion
<Sanjay>
Sanjay:
Let's see if there is consensus in TC for this approach
MikeE:
We will need to open new issue.
Sanjay:
ACTION: Danny to open issue and create a proposal
 
Issue 58 is awaiting proposal
 
Issue 59 has proposal from Anish
 
Anish not on call
Sanjay:
Last one is we need more examples. We deferred this till we get test cases.
Sanjay:
COB

[End of Minutes]
Formatted on 2009-11-18 at 22:21:03 GMT-8


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