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Subject: Raw minutes SCA Java 2008-09-08
Raw minutes: Mark Combellack: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s) http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/29201/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202008-08-18.doc 1. Election of co-chair After Simon's notice of resignation, we agreed in the last meeting to elect a replacement co-chair http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00105.html 2. Dial in access numbers for the Conference Calls Since Simon is leaving IBM, his access numbers that are used for the SCA-J will no longer be available. We need to organise an alternative. 3. Leaves of Absence: Mark Combellack will be on LOA from September 22 to October 6 inclusive. 4. Review action items: 2008-07-15-2: Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2 2008-07-15-4: Chairs to produce schedule for spec completion with help from Anish 2008-07-15-9: MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation model 2008-07-24-2: Simon to revise proposal for issue 49 based on today's discussion 2008-08-11-1: Mark to send email requesting nominations for co-chair 2008-08-11-2: Editors to check with other specifications how the use of 'a' and 'an' when referring to annotations. 5. Update from JEE Sub Committee Chair (Time boxed to maximum of 10 minutes) Consider subcommittee recommendation to set the date on which a higher bar applies to opening new issues on the Java EE spec to October 15, 2008. 6. Date of the next SCA-J Face to Face (F2F) meeting Previously, the TC agreed to have the next F2F in Cardiff, UK the week of November 10th to 14th and co-locate with the SCA-Bindings TC. Unfortunately, the SCA-Bindings TC cannot do that week and want to know if we can move a week earlier (Nov 3rd to 7th) or a week later (Nov 17th to 21st) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200809/msg00009.html 7. Web ballot for sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-WD04 During the last meeting of the sca-j TC on August 18, a motion was passed to hold a Web Ballot for CD review and comment beginning Aug 25th ending Sept 1st. It seems there was a misunderstanding about who would initiate this Web ballot, and it did not take place. 8. Accepting new issues: JAVA-57: SCA Spring Client and Implementation Specification uses an unacceptable namespace http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-57 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00081.html JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType of a SpringApplication context http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-58 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00082.html JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements multiple interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-59 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00084.html JAVA-60: Sharing Java artifacts across contributions http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-60 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00109.html 9. Open issues discussion: JAVA-48 - @Callback annotation does not feature in section on Interfaces http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-48 New Proposal http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00070.html Updated Proposals http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00086.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00079.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00083.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00087.html JAVA-42 - Incorrect examples of methods annotated @Init and @Destroy http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-42 Close because of issue 37/44 changes that no longer restrict access modifiers http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00073.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00077.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00078.html http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00085.html JAVA-3 - Local services expose implementation classes as their type http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-3 Should introduction of @Local annotation (JAVA-3) affect the Semantics of an Unannotated Implementation http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00098.html JAVA-47: Missing description of what the @EagerInit annotation does http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-47 Proposal in JIRA 10. AOB Straggler roll call 11. Adjourn --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (0) Peter Walker Sun Microsystems (1) Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems (2) Peter Peshev SAP AG (2) Ron Barack SAP AG (3) Michael Beisiegel IBM (3) Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (1) David Booz IBM (4) Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (4) Mike Edwards IBM (3) Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (3) Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (3) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (3) Bryan Aupperle IBM (3) Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG (1) Jim Marino Individual (4) Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (1) Simon Nash: you beat me to it! anonymous morphed into Dave Booz anonymous morphed into Pradeep Vamsi: Scribe: Vamsi Vamsi: Topic: Agenda bashing Vamsi: No changes. anonymous morphed into anish Vamsi: Topic: Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s) http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/29201/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202008-08-18.doc Vamsi: Minutes approved unanimously Vamsi: Topic: Election of co-chair Vamsi: One nomination by Simon: Dave Booz Vamsi: Objection that Dave is needed for Policy work (Embedded image moved to file: pic12576.gif) Vamsi: Taking a vote now. anish dave 4 president (Embedded image moved to file: pic15290.gif) Vamsi: Micheal y, Dave Booz y, Vamsi y, Mike y, Anish y, Jim y, Pradeep y, Mark y, Simon y Vamsi: Dave Booz elected as co-chair. Vote passed with 9 y, 0 n, 1 abstain. Vamsi: Topic: Dial in access numbers for the Conference Calls Vamsi: AI: Dave Booz to update the meeting details with conf call numbers. Vamsi: Topic: Leaves of Absence: Vamsi: Mark Combellack will be on LOA from September 22 to October 6 inclusive. Vamsi: TC wishes Mark all the best. Vamsi: Topic: Review action items Vamsi: 2008-07-15-2: Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2 Vamsi: Vladimir on vacation. Vamsi: 2008-07-15-4: Chairs to produce schedule for spec completion with help from Anish Vamsi: Action item - complete Vamsi: 2008-07-15-9: MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation model Vamsi: No update Vamsi: 2008-07-24-2: Simon to revise proposal for issue 49 based on today's discussion Vamsi: Still pending Vamsi: 2008-08-11-1: Mark to send email requesting nominations for co-chair Vamsi: Complete Vamsi: 2008-08-11-2: Editors to check with other specifications how the use of 'a' and 'an' when referring to annotations. Vamsi: Pending Vamsi: Topic: Update from JEE Sub Committee Chair Vamsi: Simon: From the SC meeting... SCA JEE Spec should not have the same deadline as the other specs. Suggested date is Oct 15th. Vamsi: Mike supports Oct 15th deadline. Vamsi: Mike motion to have Oct 15th deadline. Vamsi: Second by Dave Vamsi: 2/3rd majority of the voting members to raise issues on SCA JEE Spec. Ashok: +1 Vamsi: Anish: Not have any deadline as we just started. Vamsi: Mike: What is the implication of having no deadline? Vamsi: Ashok suggests to wait a while. Vamsi: Ashok suggests to wait a while. Vamsi: Mark: Leave the deadline as Oct 15th for now and move later if required. Vamsi: Simon: May need 2/3rd majority for moving the deadline. Mark Combellack: Could we reword motion to say "that the SCA JEE is exempt from the September 15th deadline until oct 15th" Vamsi: Anish: Amendment to remove Oct 15th Vamsi: from the motion Vamsi: seconded by Ashok. Vamsi: Amended Motion - the SCA JEE is exempt from the September 15th deadline Vamsi: Motion is approved. Vamsi: Plamen volunteers to be chair for SCA JEE SC. Vamsi: Mike: Plamen will make a good chair for the SC. Ashok: +1 Vamsi: Mike: Motion to make Plamen as SCA JEE SC. Vamsi: Seconded by Dave. Vamsi: Plamen is the SCA JEE SC Chair. Congratulations!! Vamsi: Topic: Date of the next SCA-J Face to Face (F2F) meeting Vamsi: No change in the dates - meeting will be in the week of November 10th to 14th Vamsi: Meeting dates 11th, 12th and 13th. Vamsi: SCA JEE SC can meet on the 10th? Vamsi: Anish: I would rather not meet on Monday the 10th. Vamsi: Simon: JEE folks can meet on Tuesday the 11th first thing. Vamsi: Simon: May extend the meeting to Friday if required. Vamsi: Ashok: Do we need four days? Vamsi: Mike: 3 days more than enough. Vamsi: Mark Motion for SCA J Meeting on 11th, 12th and 13th Nov. Vamsi: Mike seconds Vamsi: Topic: Web ballot for sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-WD04 Vamsi: Simon: Suggest a non-web ballot next Monday. Vamsi: Mark: Web ballot will give an opportunity to cast a vote without having to be in the call. Vamsi: Mark - Motion to have a non-web ballot on 15th Sep. Vamsi: Mike seconds Vamsi: Motion approved unanimously Vamsi: Simon requests the members to review and provide comments. Vamsi: on sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-WD04 Vamsi: Topic: Accepting new issues Vamsi: JAVA-57: SCA Spring Client and Implementation Specification uses an unacceptable namespace Vamsi: Mike - Motion to open the issue. Dave seconds. Vamsi: Motion is approved. Vamsi: Mike - Motion to accept the proposal written in JIRA for ISSUE 57 to resolve the issue. Dave seconds. Vamsi: Motion approved. Vamsi: JAVA-58: SCA Spring C&I Specification does not have a normative definition of how to calculate the ComponentType of a SpringApplication context Vamsi: Mike - Motion to open ISSUE 58. Dave Seconds. Vamsi: Motion approved. Vamsi: JAVA-59: SCA Spring C & I specification does not state what happens when a Bean exposed as a service implements multiple interfaces Vamsi: Mike - Motion to open ISSUE 59. Dave seconds. Vamsi: Motion approved. Vamsi: JAVA-60: Sharing Java artifacts across contributions Vamsi: Dave - Motion to open ISSUE 60. Mark seconds. Vamsi: Motion approved. Vamsi: Meeting adjourned.
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