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Subject: raw chat log 14th Dec 2009
Martin C isnt this spring music?</B< pre> Martin C will pay attention and dial back in at the new time </B< pre> Room information was cleared by: Martin C -- Short-cuts -- /info [msg|-] - set/clear the room info message /me text - send some action text /nick name - change your name ?attendees - display members that have been in the room ?help - display this text ?history - display all old messages ?info - display the room info message ?members - display the current list of members ?q - display the current queue +q [names*] - add yourself (or names) to queue -q [names*] - remove yourself (or names) to queue Mark Combellack: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes for 7th December 2009 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/35558/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-12-07.doc 0. Administration - Issue Status: Open: 14 - Reminder: Call now starts 30 minutes later at 8:00 PT and lasts for 60 minutes - Reminder: Calls on 21st and 28th December are cancelled 1. Review action items: Action Items that I believe are done: 2009-12-07-01: Mike to raise a new issue against the POJO C&I spec, section 8, relating to XML mapping of property field to say that default is JAXB, but others are allowed (in the general case) Action Items that I believe are still to be done: 2009-07-06-01: Dave B to raise to liaison (so that other C&Is can consider and possibly assembly) that non-XML based C&Is should state how the conversion of property values happens 2009-07-13-03: Anish to create a proposal for the list of annotations which make sense for JAVA-166 2009-07-17-01: Mike to create an example of the componentType introspection (JAVA-5 2009-09-28-05: Dave to look at unstated prereqs for JCI-TA-8005/8006 2009-11-09-01: Anish to point out specific locations for editorial corrections (s/./,/) for issue 150 proposal. 2. New Issues (Requires 2/3rds) a. JAVA-193: Java C&I Specification needs to define the default mapping of Property fields http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-193 (Mike) Proposal in Jira 3. Change of SCA namespace from SCA Assembly We have been notified by the SCA Assembly TC that the SCA namespace has changed. See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00007.html We need to check our XSDs and check our documents. Record an action item against Editors to do this work? 4. Open Issues with proposals ready for discussion (JAA and C&I) a. JAVA-168: Conversion rules for property values are not specified http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-168 (Dave) Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00010.html Updated proposal: sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1+Issue168_v3.doc: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/doc00002.doc sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2_issue168v2.doc: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/doc00003.doc b. JAVA-179: Need type support for @Property when used with SDO http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-179 (Dave) Updated proposal from Dave: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00011.html Old proposal in Jira as 2 word documents (Dave) Simon's old JAXB annotation investigation: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200909/msg00024.html c. JAVA-127: Long running request/response operations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-127 (Mike/Anish) Latest discussion: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00015.html Updated proposal (PDF): http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/35570/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1_Issue127c.pdf Updated proposal (MS Word): http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/35569/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1_Issue127c.doc Presentation slides (Java_Issue_127_Long_Running_Operations_01.odp) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200911/bin00000.bin Alternative proposal from Anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00003.html 5. Open Issues with proposals ready for discussion (Spring/EJB/JEE) None 6. Issues waiting for updated proposals (JAA and C&I) a. JAVA-54: Section 7.1 of the Java CAA Specification is unclear http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-154 Waiting for proposal (Mike) b. JAVA-192: JAX-WS annotations imply a WSDL based binding (binding.ws) http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-192 (Dave) Waiting for updated proposal (Dave) 7. Issues waiting for updated proposals (Spring/EJB/JEE) a. JAVA-166: Spring C&I does not say anything about SCA annotations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-166 Waiting for list of Annotations (Anish Action Item) b. JAVA-114: Spring CI runtime behaviour when annotation rules are violated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-114 Proposal in Jira Blocked by JAVA-166 c. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109 Proposal in Jira Waiting for updated proposal (Vamsi) d. JAVA-182: SCA Spring C & I specs needs to refactor text under abstract and introduction http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-182 No proposal (Ram) e. JAVA-174: Consider portlets in the SCA JEE specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-174 f. JAVA-91: Java EE Spec: Need to define the derivation of the name of a component contributed to the Domain by an application.composite file http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-91 Waiting for updated proposal (Mike) g. JAVA-93: JEE Integration spec needs to define how effective CT is calculated http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-93 Waiting for updated proposal (Anish) h. JAVA-108: RFC2119 Language is needed for the SCA-JEE Specification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-108 Waiting for updated proposal i. JAVA-88: Java EE Spec: The @archive attribute of the implementation.jee element needs fixing http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-88 No proposal Plamen to check whether on his informal JEE issues list 8. AOB a. Straggler roll call --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Graham Charters IBM (5) Yang Lei IBM (11) Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (3) Simon Nash Individual (11) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (14) Mike Edwards IBM (15) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (16) Bryan Aupperle IBM (20) Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (14) Mike Edwards: ooh, no Dave Mark Combellack: Dave did not say he would not be on the call Mark Combellack: so I presume he is inbound Mike Edwards: I was speaking with him earlier Mike Edwards: Lots of lovely Bach Mark Combellack: That's not what my office said when I left the door open Martin C: antiques roadshow Mike Edwards: philistines Mark Combellack: I think Martin was close Mike Edwards: don't know what's good for 'em Martin C: Baroque Obama? Martin C: scribe: Martin C Martin C: topic: agenda Martin C: Approved as posted Martin C: topic: minutes Martin C: minutes for 7th December 2009 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/35558/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202009-12-07.doc Martin C: Approved w/o Martin C: topic|: admin Martin C: Calls now start 8am mondays for 60 mins. Martin C: This is the last call of the year, next call Jan 4th. Martin C: topic: Action Iteme Martin C: s/me/ms Martin C: 2009-12-07-01 is done Martin C: all others ongoing Martin C: topic: new issues Martin C: 193: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-193 Martin C: scribe has to step out for a minute Martin C: Mike e moves to open 193 Martin C: dave 2nd Martin C: motion passed w/o Martin C: Mike goes over the proposed reolution to 193 Martin C: Proposal in JIRA Martin C: s/reo/reso/ Martin C: part a) add a note about other mappings Martin C: part b) replacement text Martin C: Mike E moves to resolve 193 with propodel in Jira, 2nd Bryan Martin C: Passed w/o Martin C: topic: Change of SCA Namespace Martin C: Mike E sent an email saying that the SCA Assembly TC has changed its namespace since backwards incompatible changes have been made. Martin C: There are some SCA J artifacts as part of that change that need to be verified by this TC. Martin C: ACTION: Editors to check the revised SCA namespace artifacts Martin C: topic: Issues Martin C: JAVA-168: Conversion rules for property values are not specified http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-168 Martin C: Dave goes over the proposal. Martin C: The CAA one first Martin C: sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1+Issue168_v3.doc: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/doc00002.doc Martin C: Section 10.20 Martin C: first 2 normative statements combined into one Martin C: second change is paragraph after Martin C: remove the word "valid" from the second paragraph Martin C: pojo ci part Martin C: sca-javaci-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2_issue168v2.doc: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/doc00003.doc Martin C: new text in 4.1 Martin C: similar changes to the caa (note the word valid not used in this spec) Martin C: Dave moves to resolve 168 with the proposals in the two docs linked above with the removal of the word "valid" in the second paragraph of the caa proposal Martin C: 2nd Mike E Martin C: Passed w/o Martin C: JAVA-179: Need type support for @Property when used with SDO http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-179 Martin C: Dave goes over updated proposal in Martin C: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00011.html Martin C: A proposal to close no action puts the onus on other mapping to define the annotations Martin C: Dave moves to close 179 no action, Mike E 2nd Martin C: Passed w/o Martin C: JAVA-127: Long running request/response operations http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-127 Martin C: updated proposal from Mike E Martin C: Updated proposal (PDF): http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/35570/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1_Issue127c.pdf Updated proposal (MS Word): http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/35569/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1_Issue127c.doc Mark Combellack: Updated presentation (hopefully) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/bin00000.bin Mike Edwards: email: Martin C one day mail from oasis my actually indlude a archive url of the email in its headers</B< pre> Mike Edwards: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200912/msg00015.html Martin C: 1st change is slide 6 Martin C: Service interface a new async service interface this is new - not part of JAX-WS Martin C: example on 7 shows change Martin C: on client Martin C: slide 9 new service model Martin C: new ResponseDispatch Martin C: slide 10: new ResponseDispatch Martin C: Slide 11: server can call ResponseDispatch but only once Martin C: slide 12: new ResponseDispatch api - part of SCA not JaxWs Martin C she just jumped on my lap and made me jump</B< pre> Martin C: slide 15: updated example Martin C: slide 17: example updated Martin C: slide 18: example updated Martin C: slide 19: updated sequence diagram Martin C: the spec doc http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/download.php/35570/sca-javacaa-1.1-spec-cd03-rev1_Issue127c.pdf Martin C: has been updated to reflect these changes Martin C: section 7.3 has main changes Martin C: new section 9.4 Martin C: topic: AOB Martin C: stragler roll Martin C: Plaman Martin C: s/man/men Martin C: Happy/Merry Chrsitmas
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