Draft Minutes of 2009-05-04 are attached

[Bob Freund <bob.freund@hitachisoftware.com>]

Title: SCA-Policy - 2009-05-04

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Oasis SCA-Policy Teleconference

04 MAY 2009

Attendees

Present

fred carter	AmberPoint	Group Member
Dale Moberg	Axway Software*	Group Member
Robert Freund	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
Eric Wells	Hitachi, Ltd.	Group Member
David Booz	IBM	Group Member
Anish Karmarkar	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Rich Levinson	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Ashok Malhotra	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Jeff Mischkinsky	Oracle Corporation	Group Member
Fabian Ritzmann	Sun Microsystems	Group Member
Tai-Hsing Cha	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Murty Gurajada	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member
Pundalik Kudapkar	TIBCO Software Inc.	Group Member

Chairs

David Booz
Ashok Malhotra

Scribe

Eric Wells

Agenda:

Agenda SCA Policy Telecon - May 4 2009

Callin Number: See below

Chatroom: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/sca-policy-TC

1. Roll call

2. Confirm minute taker

3. Agenda bashing

4. Meeting Minutes
Vote to accept minutes from April 27 2009
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200904/msg00046.html

5. TC Logistics:
a. Recording issue status - 4 Open

6. PRD status update
a. No issues from PR comment list

7. ACTION ITEMS:
a. 2009-04-27-1 status=done owner="Editors" Editors (DaveB) to create JIRA for PR comments
b. s009-04-27-2 status=done owner="DaveB" Raise issue to make statements underlying POL-30023A/B non-normative
c. 2009-04-27-3 status=pending owner="EricW" Review POL-40005 and propose how to handle
d. 2009-04-27-4 status=pending owner="Ashok" Combine POL-40010A/B into single TA
e. 2009-04-27-5 status=done owner="DaveB" Raise issue to restore Rule 2 for POL-40015

8. New Issues
a. ISSUE-80: POL30023 should not be a conformance statement
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-80

b. ISSUE-81: POL40005 needs to be re-marked as Rule2
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-81

9. Blocking Issue Discussion
None

10. Testing Discussion
a. Review latest pass at test assertion examples
Latest document: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200904/msg00055.html

11. Additional Issue Discussion
a. ISSUE 73: XPath samples are invalid by syntax
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-73
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200903/msg00039.html

b. ISSUE 76: Conformance statement 30011 is unclear
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/POLICY-76
Proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200904/msg00015.html

12. AOB
a. straggler role

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Contents

Topics

[1]  Opening

[2]  Action Items

[3]  Testing Discussions

[4]  AOB

Table of Resolutions

Table of Action Items

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Action Items

Done:

id=2009-04-27-1 status=done owner="Editors" Editors (DaveB) to create JIRA for PR comments

id=2009-04-27-2 status=done owner="DaveB" Raise issue to make statements underlying POL-30023A/B non-normative

id=2009-04-27-4 status=done owner="Ashok" Combine POL-40010A/B into single TA

id=2009-04-27-5 status=done owner="DaveB" Raise issue to restore Rule 2 for POL-40015

Pending:

id=2009-04-27-3 status=pending owner="EricW" Review POL-40005 and propose how to handle

New:

id=2009-05-04-1 status=pending owner="DaveB" Consider POL-40010 further for addition TA or modify

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Resolutions

• 2009-05-04-1: Minutes of 27-Apr-09 accepted w/o

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Minutes

Scribe: Eric Wells

Opening

Roll call 10/18 55% Quorate

Agenda bashing - no changes

Minutes of 27-Apr-09

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-policy/200904/msg00046.html

Resolution: Minutes of 27-Apr-09 accepted w/o

Action Items

Action: id=2009-04-27-1 status=done owner="Editors" Editors (DaveB) to create JIRA for PR comments

Action: id=2009-04-27-2 status=done owner="DaveB" Raise issue to make statements underlying POL-30023A/B non-normative

Action: id=2009-04-27-3 status=pending owner="EricW" Review POL-40005 and propose how to handle

Action: id=2009-04-27-4 status=done owner="Ashok" Combine POL-40010A/B into single TA

Action: id=2009-04-27-5 status=done owner="DaveB" Raise issue to restore Rule 2 for POL-40015

Testing Discussions

Ashok:

reviews document posted on 27-Apr-09

POL-40010 - Direct & External attachment

Action: owner=DaveB Consider POL-40010 further for addition TA or modify

Ashok:

Do we need to profile the TA's

EricW:

Depends on how many optional normative statements in Policy spec

 

...If they're related then will need to group and hence groups TA's also

POL-40017

Ashok:

Similar but not the same as POL-400009 need to retain

POL-40018 - binding & interfaces

DaveB:

Prerequisites need to be more prescriptive

 

...attached policy sets also provide attached intents

POL-40019 - declaration and definition locations

Ashok:

Not sure what the think is behind this any comments

DaveB:

Related to POL-40014 - may need to do more work on this

 

...Saying that implementaion hierarchy needs to be considered in some cases & this is one

<Ashok>

Prereqs on 40014 need to be more speccific.

<Ashok>

In 40019 we say intents attached via WSDL extension. direct attachment to interface or on the component type all must be accounted for in the implementation hierarchy

DaveB:

attached to reference to interface

POL-40020 - QName for binding

DaveB:

bindingTypes defined in Assembly spec

POL-40021 - @alwaysProvides and @mayProvides

Ashok:

How do we test?

 

...can do specific bindings but can we do the general case.

DaveB:

OK for binding.WS

Make POL-40021 specific to binding.WS and SOAP

POL-40022 - Policy Sets on ends of wire

DaveB:

Need prerequisites

 

...similar for POL-40023

POL-40023

EricW:

Don't have to have real policy language to test - use WS-Policy & "anything" else

POL-40024 - Wires using WS-Policy

POL-40026A/B - deployed composites

DaveB:

Should be combined into one TA

<Ashok>

Combine 40026A and B

POL-50001 - QName of implementationType element

No TA's for section 6

Ashok:

Section 7 test for specific intents

POL-70001 - Authorization

POL-70009 - Confidentiality

POL-70010 - Integrity

POL-70011 - delegation to transport layer

POL-70012 - delegation to messaging layer

POL-70013 - server authentication

POL-70014 - client authentication

Section 8

POL-80001 - atLeastOnc

POL-80002 - atMostOnce

<Bob>

I will finish up the formatting if you would like

POL-80003 - ordered Intent

That would be great Bob - just let me finish it off!

POL-80004 - exactlyOnce

<Ashok>

AOB

<Ashok>

Straggler Roll

Resume next time with Section 9 - Transactions

Ashok:

Please review for comments

AOB

Straggler role

BobF, JeffM, Murty

COB 10:01 PDT

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