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Subject: [security-jc] Meeting today - Agenda attached



Attached is a proposed meeting agenda and call in 
information. Be hearing you at noon.

Phil Griffin


Proposed Agenda for Thursday, January 9, 2003 12 noon EST SJC Meeting

Dial-in Number: +1 405-244-5555
Conference ID: 6921#

Call sponsor - Content Guard

 1. Call meeting to order

 2. Introductions

 3. Approve past minutes; review action items

 4. Approve proposed agenda

 5. Chair Update

    - Next election for chair is middle June 2003
    - Note sent to WSS and WSRP to address concerns over scope
      of SJC w.r.t. security vocabulary work.
    - Draft example OASIS Security Vocabulary document posted
      for comment by SJC.
    - Posted MoU/MG Annex A in OASIS format for SJC review 
      and comment

 6. TAB update - Krishna/Karl

    - OASIS Forum on the Direction of Web Services. Need
      two SJC members to participate in a panel discussion
      on security. Tuesday, 4 March 2003 at XML/Web Services
      One Conference in Santa Clara, California.

    - Need an SJC representative to speak with an editor from
      Federal Computer Week, a publication for IT executives at
      federal agencies. Their article will examine the current
      level of security in XML links, the work various standards
      groups (IETF, W3C, and OASIS) are taking to add more security
      functions to XML transmissions, and the availability of 
      products that add security functions to XML. He would like 
      to conduct a phone interview before Tuesday, January 14.
      Contact is Carol Geyer. 

    - Remarks on XML Conference and Exposition 2002 in 
      Baltimore of interest to the SJC? Note that WSS and
      XCBF held meetings there. 

    - Issue of purpose and direction of SJC. Following
      text outlines the issue and the position of the 
      TAB. What if any should be the SJC response?

      TAB position
        At the OASIS TAB meeting today we discussed, among 
        other things, the Security JC scope and charter. It
        was pointed out that the OASIS TC Process makes no 
        provision for a JC having a charter beyond simply
        coordinating the activities of the TCs, and 
        additionally that the Process says that a JC will
        have no deliverables.

        So while the TAB thinks that the JC has identified
        some valuable topics to pursue (security common 
        glossary, architecture model, etc.) and that this 
        work is important and needs to be done, the TAB 
        feels that the JC is the wrong place to be doing
        this work.

        The TAB suggests that interested members of the JC
        form a TC to do this work and that the JC restrict
        itself to providing a forum for the various TCs to
        communicate and coordinate their activities with 
        each other.

        Krishna and I would be happy to further explain the
        TAB's feelings on this at the next JC meeting.    

    - Other TAB issues

 7. SJC F2F Meeting / Joint TC Meeting Proposals

    Dee Schur efforts:

    -  RSA conference, http://www.rsaconference.net/rsa2003/,
       SJC can meet in the room used for RSA press conferences
       from 12:15 pm to 1:45 p.m. on Wednesday, April 16th.
       Class room style seating. Boxed lunch available for
       about $750 for approximately 30.

    -  XML Web Services One in Santa Clara, 3-6 March,
       http://www.xmlconference.com/santaclara/

    -  Web Services Edge in Boston, 18-20 March,
       http://www.sys-con.com/webservicesedge2003east/

    Terry Leahy offer:

    - PKI TC has obtained offer to use Computer Associates 
      headquarters in New Jersey? - a large auditorium which
      can house 170+ plus several mid size conference rooms
      available March 18-20. Contact Terry to discuss.

 8. Joint OASIS and ITU-T Security Standards

    Richard Hill, ITU-T central secretariat, is interested in 
    having OASIS submit completed work for approval under the
    ITU-T process. OASIS has an established A.4 and A.5 
    communication process (liaison) with ITU-T. This proposal
    is similar to the process through which the ebXML work is
    submitted to ISO for approval.

    ITU-T is particularly interested in OASIS security work.
    Karl Best has proposed SAML and XACML for submission. A
    joint copyright would be structured so that OASIS would
    retain ownership, the right to publish, and responsibility
    of doing further work on the specifications. ITU-T would 
    put it's copyright (jointly with OASIS) on *its version*
    of the work, but containing the same normative text.
 
    Background:

    Recommendations. A.4, A.5 and A.6 Qualified Organizations
    Lists are described in [1].

    There are links here for A.4 and A.5 procedures which show 
    All ITU-T SGs are available to OASIS

    ITU-T Study Group 17 - Data Networks and Telecommunication
    Software [2] does all ITU-T security work and is responsible
    jointly with ISO/IEC for the X.500-series Directory standards
    under Question 9/17 [3]. 

    Security requirements, models and guidelines for communication
    systems and services work is done under question 10/17 [4], and
    has relationships with ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 27 IT Security [5] and 
    ISO/TC 68/SC2 Security and General Banking Operations [6].

    [1] http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/dbase/sdo/qualified.html
    [2] http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com17/index.asp
    [3] http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com17/sg17-q9.html
    [4] http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com17/sg17-q10.html
    [5] http://www2.din.de/index.php?lang=en
    [6] http://www.tc68.org
 
 7. MoU/MG - Memorandum of Understanding Management Group 
    Annex A is under revision. This gives OASIS an opportunity
    to promote and coordinate its standards efforts and to stake
    out leadership areas.

    Do SJC members have comments on Annex A?

    Background:

    The work of the MoU/MG is related to E-Business [1] and
    several OASIS TCs are listed in the current Annex A Division
    of responsibility [2]. The E-Business MoU Management Group 
    works to foster cooperation among standards developers, so
    as to minimize the risk of divergent and competing approaches
    to standardization, to avoid duplication of efforts, and to 
    avoid confusion ... [3].

    [1] http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/e-business/mou/related/index.html
    [2] http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/e-business/mou/annexa.html
    [3] http://www.oasis-open.org/news/oasis_news_02_11_02.shtml

8. Other business

9. Adjourn


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