Re: Embarrassing episode with conference call

[Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@baltimore.ie>]

Hal, Marc,

I'm sure you're right Hal, and this is just a hangover from
some previous conf. call instruction. As to costs: I'm not sure 
how we could share 'em, unless we rotate or oasis have some 
scheme. (Maybe we can buy Marc & Prateek lots of beer at all 
the F2F meetings:-)

Stephen.

Hal Lockhart wrote:
> 
> Personally I have no concerns and I am probably as sensitive to this as
> anybody. I believe this is the service Netegrity uses internally. I suspect
> that the instructions may have been given for some Netegrity internal
> concall where they (quite legitimately) wanted to make sure to exclude
> competitors. Somehow these instructions got applied to our call.
> 
> Marc raises a good point. I would hate to see one party get stuck with the
> tab forever. Maybe the companies could cover the cost on a rotating basis.
> We would certainly be glad to pay for some of them.
> 
> Hal
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chanliau, Marc [mailto:MChanliau@netegrity.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:10 AM
> > To: Eve L. Maler; Chanliau, Marc;
> > security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Cc: elm@east.sun.com
> > Subject: RE: Embarrassing episode with conference call
> >
> >
> > Wow!!!! I was not aware of this. I sure apologize, although
> > I'm not sure for
> > what. Just thinking that Netegrity would do anything to preclude
> > participants from participating in an open standards group
> > discussion is
> > insulting enough. To remove any doubt, maybe somebody else
> > should organize
> > those calls. I've done that (using my company's money) to help the TC
> > community, certainly not to bar members from being included.
> > I will call the
> > conference organization which handled that call and let you
> > all know what
> > really happened.
> > Marc Chanliau
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eve L. Maler [mailto:eve.maler@east.sun.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:52 PM
> > To: mchanliau@netegrity.com
> > Cc: elm@east.sun.com
> > Subject: Embarrassing episode with conference call
> >
> >
> > Hi Marc-- I'm not sure if you joined the call on Tuesday in
> > time to hear
> > the problem we had with the conference company.  They were
> > holding back
> > from letting Securant and Entrust join the call because they had
> > instructions not to let them on!  I suggest you get them to
> > remove that
> > from their records, and also send an apology to at least
> > Darren (who we
> > know was held back for about 15 minutes) and possibly the
> > others -- maybe
> > even the whole list.  Or if this was some aberration and the
> > conference
> > company never should have had this instruction, an
> > explanation of this
> > would be great.  I don't want there to be any lingering doubt that
> > Netegrity is fully supporting this open standards effort,
> > which would look
> > bad for you and hurt the group's work...
> >
> >       Eve
> > --
> > Eve Maler                                          +1 781 442 3190
> > Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center    eve.maler @ east.sun.com
> >

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