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Subject: RE: Embarrassing episode with conference call

Personally I have no concerns and I am probably as sensitive to this as
anybody. I believe this is the service Netegrity uses internally. I suspect
that the instructions may have been given for some Netegrity internal
concall where they (quite legitimately) wanted to make sure to exclude
competitors. Somehow these instructions got applied to our call.

Marc raises a good point. I would hate to see one party get stuck with the
tab forever. Maybe the companies could cover the cost on a rotating basis.
We would certainly be glad to pay for some of them.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chanliau, Marc [mailto:MChanliau@netegrity.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:10 AM
> To: Eve L. Maler; Chanliau, Marc; 
> security-services@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: elm@east.sun.com
> Subject: RE: Embarrassing episode with conference call
> Wow!!!! I was not aware of this. I sure apologize, although 
> I'm not sure for
> what. Just thinking that Netegrity would do anything to preclude
> participants from participating in an open standards group 
> discussion is
> insulting enough. To remove any doubt, maybe somebody else 
> should organize
> those calls. I've done that (using my company's money) to help the TC
> community, certainly not to bar members from being included. 
> I will call the
> conference organization which handled that call and let you 
> all know what
> really happened.
> Marc Chanliau
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eve L. Maler [mailto:eve.maler@east.sun.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 10:52 PM
> To: mchanliau@netegrity.com
> Cc: elm@east.sun.com
> Subject: Embarrassing episode with conference call
> Hi Marc-- I'm not sure if you joined the call on Tuesday in 
> time to hear 
> the problem we had with the conference company.  They were 
> holding back 
> from letting Securant and Entrust join the call because they had 
> instructions not to let them on!  I suggest you get them to 
> remove that 
> from their records, and also send an apology to at least 
> Darren (who we 
> know was held back for about 15 minutes) and possibly the 
> others -- maybe 
> even the whole list.  Or if this was some aberration and the 
> conference 
> company never should have had this instruction, an 
> explanation of this 
> would be great.  I don't want there to be any lingering doubt that 
> Netegrity is fully supporting this open standards effort, 
> which would look 
> bad for you and hurt the group's work...
> 	Eve
> --
> Eve Maler                                          +1 781 442 3190
> Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center    eve.maler @ east.sun.com

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