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Subject: RE: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website


I found this confusing as well, since it has nothing to do with OASIS
process. Basically the TC decides that the current drafts are feature
complete and ready for detailed review. As such the TC can still make
substantive changes if necessary.
Part of the confusion is the relation to W3C process, where the term
does have standards body meaning.

Public review here is unofficial, unlike the public review part of the
OASIS TC Process.

Prateek sent out the following clarification that is helpful for

1. What is "Committee Last Call" status? I cannot find any such term on
the OASIS web site? Does it mean the specification is completely frozen?


This is a term defined by the SSTC. It has no formal meaning in terms of
the OASIS process. It should not be confused with an OASIS committee
draft. It does not mean that the specification is frozen and cannot be

By designating a document set to be committee last call, the TC
indicates that the document set is feature complete with stable schema.
Further, the TC feels ready to seek detailed review of the document set
from implementors, deployers and other folks outside the SSTC.   

Regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 9:06 AM
> To: Eve L. Maler
> Cc: 'security-services@lists.oasis-open.org'; Dee Schur; Robin Cover
> Subject: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call 
> for review now available on website
> Eve:
> Is this "last call" the same as the public review required by 
> the TC Process before the approval of the spec as a CD by the TC? (see
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#committee_dra
ft) Or has that public review already taken place? If it's a > public
review there's a process to follow, i.e. I have to 
> announce it, etc.
> But even if the required public review has already taken 
> place this "last call" could be considered another round of 
> review (see the second para of the section on public review); 
> why don't we do that instead of inventing something that's 
> not in the Process?
> (But I appreciate your informing me where things are at, and 
> I would encourage Dee making the announcement once we figure 
> out what to call this.)
> -Karl
> Eve L. Maler wrote:
> > Folks, the last-call draft package that we approved today is now 
> > available from the SSTC website.  Please check out the site 
> and let me 
> > know if you find any errors:
> > 
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=security
> > 
> > Note that I've created a zip file for downloading all the last-call 
> > spec and schema drafts at once:
> > 
> > 
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/7750/sstc-saml-2.0-l
> > ast-call.zip
> > 
> > Karl, Dee, and Robin, although the SSTC does this last-call 
> phase on 
> > its own as an additional level of review along with the usual 
> > Committee Draft and OASIS Standard balloting phases, we thought you 
> > might be interested that we've reached this level.  It 
> indicates that 
> > we believe these specs are feature-complete (though we're 
> prepared to 
> > revise them to accommodate comments) and that we're actively 
> > soliciting external input even before the Committee Draft phase.  
> > Think of it as a sort of beta.  (Note that there are other specs in 
> > the SAML V2.0 set that are either less crucial for initial 
> > implementation or are non-normative, or both, that will skip this 
> > last-call phase, though they have working drafts linked 
> from the SSTC 
> > website.)
> > 
> > Dee, can I request that you add a blurb along the following 
> lines to 
> > the next issue of OASIS News?  We will also send a note to the 
> > saml-dev mailing list along these lines.
> > 
> > "
> > The Security Services Technical Committee (SSTC) has 
> produced a set of 
> > last-call working drafts for key SAML Version 2.0 
> specifications and 
> > schemas, and is soliciting review comments and implementor feedback 
> > prior to preparing Committee Drafts.  Comments are due by 2 
> August 2004.
> >  The last-call drafts can be found here:
> > 
> >   http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/7750/
> > 
> > More information, along with links to additional SAML specification 
> > drafts, is available at the SSTC website:
> > 
> >   http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/security
> > "
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> >     Eve
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