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Subject: RE: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for review now available on website

Karl - one of the reasons the SSTC uses a "last call" is to minimize the
probability that we will need to repeat the OASIS 30-day Public Review
period.  This gives us a bit more certainty in our scheduling, although
it doesn't eliminate the possibility that it will still be required.

Anyway we are in sync. The schedule we're working toward includes:

*** start of SSTC process ***
1) vote to hold our internal SSTC last call period (requires simple
2) SSTC last call period (minimum of 2 weeks)
3) update specs

*** start of OASIS process ***
1) a vote to CD (requires 2/3)
2) a vote to hold OASIS public review (requires simple majority)
3) 30-day OASIS Public Review
4) update specs if required
5) go back to OASIS step 3 if substantial changes were made
6) re-approve as CD (requires 2/3)
7) OASIS vote

Rob Philpott
Senior Consulting Engineer 
RSA Security Inc. 
Tel: 781-515-7115 
Mobile: 617-510-0893 
Fax: 781-515-7020 

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl F. Best [mailto:karl.best@oasis-open.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:47 AM
To: Eve L. Maler
Cc: Philpott, Robert; security-services@lists.oasis-open.org; Dee Schur;
Robin Cover; pmishra@netegrity.com; Jeff Hodges;
Subject: Re: [security-services] Re: Last-call drafts and call for
review now available on website


All this is okay, except that step #4 is not optional; the TC must 
reapprove the CD after the review.

Please send a sentence or two or three to Dee for her to include in the 
weekly news. What you've suggested (with the clarification) is about

(Sorry if I started a firestorm; I just wanted to make sure that we were

all clear about what this step was and wasn't.)


Eve L. Maler wrote:
> I'm keeping the cc list here so people can see the conclusion, but I 
> suggested that any finer points should be discussed in private mail.
> Karl, since we're doing this at the TC stage and on the TC's 
> recognizance only, it's prior to the steps you list below.  It's "step

> 0", if you like.  It goes like this:
> 0. Last-call working draft review
> 1. Approve as CD
> 2. Public review
> 3 and 4. Revise and reapprove as CD (if necessary)
> 5. Vote to submit for OASIS Standard balloting
> Note that this step 0 is a practice of long standing in the SSTC (it 
> predates the current TC process and the mandated 30-day CD review on
> way to balloting, for example :-).  Now that I understand the text I
> seeing in the TC process doc, I think it's clear that we need not 
> lengthen our planned schedule.  But if you're willing to publicize
> review period, then perhaps we modify the second sentence of my 
> suggested blurb to say something like "...and is soliciting review 
> comments and implementor feedback prior to preparing Committee Drafts 
> (after which time the TC will conduct an additional 30-day CD
>     Eve
> Karl F. Best wrote:
>> Rob:
>> You're correct in that the Public Review is optional before the TC 
>> finally approves the spec as a Committee Draft *if* that CD is not 
>> going to be submitted for consideration as an OASIS Standard. If the 
>> CD is going to be submitted then there must be a public review. But
>> what is sent out for public review must be approved first as a CD, 
>> maybe where we're at is the first CD approval.
>> We do it like this: 1) approve as CD, 2) public review, 3) revise, 4)

>> reapprove as CD, 5) vote to submit to OASIS.
>> Steps 1-3 can be repeated as often as desired.
>> My concern is that the TC has invented a new, extra-procedural step 
>> named "last call". This is very confusing, both to people who are 
>> acquainted with the OASIS process and won't know where this fits, as 
>> well as to people who will confuse this with the W3C process.
>> That said, I'm happy for us to announce this "review" (or whatever)
>> our members; we should just be clear about where this fits in the 
>> process to avoid confusion.
>> -Karl

Karl F. Best
Vice President, OASIS
office  +1 978.667.5115 x206     mobile +1 978.761.1648
karl.best@oasis-open.org      http://www.oasis-open.org

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