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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] Cogitating Descriptions for Reference Architecture and System


Duane,

I don't think ecosystem infers a looser relationship  but I think it does connote interdependency and distributed, non-total control (ownership?) of the pieces.

Ken

On Jul 24, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:

One ponders....  Is it really a "system" or an "ecosystem" when in the
context of SOA?

I believe that one of the principles of the internet, ebXML architecture,
Web Services Architecture and the UN/CEFACT eBusiness Technical Architecture
is that components can be added or removed without causing the system to
fail as a whole.  System to me indicates a set boundary whereas ecosystem
infers a looser relationship.

D


On 7/24/07 10:15 AM, "Francis McCabe" <frankmccabe@mac.com> wrote:

I think that I prefer Ken's friendly amendment.
I am also beginning to wonder whether we want bring a slightly agent-
like perspective to services:

For SOA, a system can be defined as a collection of services that
provide access to exposed business functionality of service
providers; and enables these capabilities to be organized and used to
satisfy specific business needs.

The rewording is subtle, but I wanted to emphasize that there is a
*reason* that people expose their services.

Frank


On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Ken Laskey wrote:

First, I'll probably miss tomorrow's call.

Second, +1 to Danny's RA definition.

Third,  I'd suggest leaning a bit more on the RM for something like:

For SOA, a system can be defined as a collection of services that
provide access to underlying capabilities, i.e. business functions,
and enables these capabilities to be organized and used to satisfy
specific business needs.

Ken


On Jul 24, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Danny Thornton wrote:

Chapter 1 of the latest RA doc is really shaping up.
There are two issues for this section that we may be
able to work through via email.

1) The first issue is our description of a reference
architecture.  Currently we state:

"A reference architecture is an architectural design
pattern that indicates how an abstract set of
mechanisms and relationships realizes a predetermined
set of requirements."

If we state the reference architecture is an
architectural design pattern, I would expect the
document to contain design patterns in a common design
pattern format.  Also, I would associate "realizes" as
it is used in the sentence with SOA implementation.
The following is an alternative description for a
reference architecture:

A reference archicture is a design template that
indicates how an abstract set of mechanisms and
relationships may realize a predetermined set of goals
and requirements.

2) The second issue is that we use the ANSI IEEE
1471-2000 definition for system:

"A collection of components organized to accomplish a
specific function or set of functions."

I suggest dropping this direct quote from IEEE 1471
and stating something more appropriate for an SOA
ecosystem.  For example,

For SOA, a system can be defined as a collection of
services and components organized to accomplish
specific goals and requirements.

Other than these two issues, chapter one is a good
read and resonates with me.

Danny



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