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Subject: Re: [soa-rm-ra] OO vs. SOA and what goes into a service


OK, but how does this address my basic questions?

Ken

On Jan 22, 2008, at 11:05 PM, Danny Thornton wrote:

Talking in feed speak, the service is being fed the
information model.

Danny

--- Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org> wrote:

I'm not talking implementation (SOA can use OO
principles to develop  
the code) but general mindset.  We once agreed that
asking "what is a  
service?" is similar to asking "what is an object?"
because the  
answer is it could be anything that fits your
problem.  My thought is  
a service is not necessarily a good object that you
operate on but  
more like an operation that you may be feeding
objects to.

Again, this is all at the concept level, no
implementation.

Ken

On Jan 22, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:

In SOA, is it necessary that there is an object
behind the  
service?  We talk to the interface (service)and
don’t really care  
what is behind it.  Assuming there is an object
could be errant and  
architecturally un-elegant.

Duane


On 1/22/08 3:05 PM, "Ken Laskey"

Is it fair (or at least not too distorted) to say
that with OO we  
define an object and look for what we can do to
it (i.e. its  
methods) while with SOA we identify what we want
to do (i.e.  
business functions) and then, if appropriate,
look for objects to  
do it to?


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