Re: [soa-rm-ra] reaching closure on Action

[Francis McCabe <frankmccabe@mac.com>]

I believe that there are 4 'concepts' of action involved:

1. The abstract sense of Action. Application of intent etc.
2. Abstract Joint Action (which is either a subclass of Action or a  
particular use of Action; not sure of the right relationship).
3. Communicative Action (which is a subclass of Abstract Joint Action)
4. Service Action which is an Action against a Service (which is  
described in the Action Model and the Process Model)

3. and 4. are connected via the counts-as relationship:

A valid Communicative Action counts as a Service Action

At some level, all of these should be introduced and explained in  
Section 3.

Frank



On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Ken Laskey wrote:

> Dear Fellow Explorers,
>
> We've had some very stimulating discussions over the past few weeks  
> but I feel there are other things caught in limbo until we reach  
> some consensus.  I don't think we are plagued by major disagreements  
> but rather the different facets of complexity for the range of  
> things we want to capture and make understandable to a wider audience.
>
> So I think we need a plan for how to proceed.  The elements of such  
> a plan would cover
> 1. capturing the different facets;
> 2. capturing where in the document these facets currently live;
> 3. work a consistent understanding that covers all the facets.
>
> Unfortunately, this is not an 80-20 situation because a standard  
> that only covers 80% of the scope is looking for trouble.
>
> Now I would suggest an extended call (all day?) but I realize we are  
> all busy and that may not be feasible.  What's more is it may not be  
> productive unless we have all the background material together going  
> in.
>
> As a precursor to an extended meeting (or even a regular meeting),  
> is it possible for us to have a short list of questions and for the  
> author of each section to satisfy items 1 and 2 above through the  
> answers?  Would that be enough to help structure a productive (and  
> hopefully not too long) call?
>
> I haven't yet considered the questions, but figured I'd float the  
> idea and see if someone came up with something better.
>
> Ken
>
>
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