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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps
Admittedly, I used an online translation service: http://www.translatum.gr/ Duane George Ntinolazos wrote: >Being Greek I would agree with this translation :-) > >George > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Frank McCabe [mailto:frank.mccabe@us.fujitsu.com] >Sent: 04 May 2005 18:36 >To: Duane Nickull >Cc: Chiusano Joseph; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps > >LOL: > I tried to translate this using the dashboard translation widget: > > Can try again > >Frank > >On May 4, 2005, at 10:26 AM, Duane Nickull wrote: > > > >>"Interoperability, excellence and alcohol." >> >>Duane >> >>Chiusano Joseph wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>&Mgr;&pgr;&ogr;&rgr;&egr;&iacgr;&tgr;&egr; &ngr;&agr; &dgr;&ogr;&kgr;&igr;&mgr;&aacgr;&sgr;&egr;&tgr;&egr; &pgr;&aacgr;&lgr;&igr;: "Join Our TC"? >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>--- >>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] >>>Sent: Wed 5/4/2005 1:00 PM >>>Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org >>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Fwd: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise >>>apps >>> >>>Rex: >>> >>>I believe we all share your vision of "technical excellence". >>> >>>I was actually toying with the idea of getting a shirt design for our >>>TC. Came up with a rather edgy design - the top would have "OASIS >>>SOA RM >>>TC in arced letters, the middle with a skull and an eye patch, >>>then at >>>the bottom the greek words "&Mgr;&pgr;&ogr;&rgr;&egr;&iacgr;&tgr;&egr; &ngr;&agr; >>>&dgr;&ogr;&kgr;&igr;&mgr;&aacgr;&sgr;&egr;&tgr;&egr; &pgr;&aacgr;&lgr;&igr;: " >>> >>>Duane >>> >>>Rex Brooks wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I thought it might be of interest to note that we are now seeing a >>>>bombardment of articles and white papers touting SOA, and providing >>>>models and definitions, which strikes me as very indicative of the >>>>kind of frenzied activity that we see when a 'buzz' word or concept >>>>makes the rounds. This is exactly what I meant when I started >>>> >>>> >>>working >>> >>> >>>>on my recent series of articles on EA-SOA, Fad or Foundation? >>>> >>>>I am not going to post the urls, unless asked since it is a four- >>>> >>>> >>>part >>> >>> >>>>series and long enough for a short book by itself and not >>>> >>>> >>>dedicated to >>> >>> >>>>SOA per se, and that is not the thrust of this message, which >>>> >>>> >>>is, to >>> >>> >>>>be honest counter-intuitive. I would like us to simply hold off on >>>>pushing forward so vigorously that even if we deliver a spec in >>>> >>>> >>>record >>> >>> >>>>time and letter perfect down to its manicured toenails, it will be >>>>lost in this confusion of "experts" including my own >>>> >>>> >>>contribution to >>> >>> >>>>the overall "mess." Also, after having been through several larger >>>>efforts to build standards for more narrowly focused >>>> >>>> >>>technologies, I >>> >>> >>>>begin to distrust anything that hasn't taken at least a year to >>>> >>>> >>>work >>> >>> >>>>its way through a vigorous process. >>>> >>>>While the editors are to be commended for producing drafts so >>>> >>>> >>>quickly, >>> >>> >>>>I haven't had the time to properly absorb what is on the agenda for >>>>today's meeting, let alone what the long term implications and >>>>ramifications of these definitions and terms actually represent. >>>>Perhaps as another indication of why I find this whole topic >>>> >>>> >>>somewhat >>> >>> >>>>alarming for the rapidity with which it is overtaking both the >>>> >>>> >>>trade >>> >>> >>>>press and the IT providers, I am actually getting an online demo >>>> >>>> >>>of an >>> >>> >>>>SOA-specific product today, which I won't bother naming since I >>>>haven't had a chance to view it yet, but the very fact that it >>>> >>>> >>>pushed >>> >>> >>>>its way on to my schedule after last week and in time to overlap >>>> >>>> >>>with >>> >>> >>>>today's meeting, which I will attend even if I am not actively >>>>discussing much, supports my point--the hurrier I go the >>>> >>>> >>>behinder I get. >>> >>> >>>>I think we will do ourselves a favor if we just slow down to a more >>>>deliberate pace, and let this initial flurry of attention and hype >>>>subside while we pore over this in a bit more thorough way. I >>>>recognize that this is unlikely to receive a favorable >>>> >>>> >>>reception, but >>> >>> >>>>the faster we go, no matter how thorough we think we are being, the >>>>more I am convinced that our work will be flawed seriously for >>>> >>>> >>>lack of >>> >>> >>>>enough time for our collection of brains to gain sufficient >>>>perspective to view our own enterprise here in a more balanced and >>>>objective way. >>>> >>>>However, in the end, what do I know? Not very bleeping much. >>>> >>>>Ciao, >>>>Rex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>X-sbi: accucast >>>>>Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT) >>>>>From: "Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com" >>>>><CNET_Networks_Member_Services@newsletter.online.com> >>>>>Reply-To: >>>>>"Enterprise Applications at TechRepublic.com" >>>>><CNET_Networks_#3.147048.33373833383235@newsletters.online.com> >>>>>To: rexb@starbourne.com >>>>>Subject: [TechRepublic] SOA model for enterprise apps >>>>>X-Accutrak: >>>>> >>>>> >>>CNET_Networks_#3.147048.33373833383235@newsletters.online.com >>> >>> >>>>>X-Rcpt-To: <rexb@starbourne.com> >>>>>X-DPOP: Version number supressed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Trouble viewing this mail? 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