Re: [soa-rm] Identity (Was RE: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices")

[Matthew MacKenzie <mattm@adobe.com>]

Rex,

Good point.  A lot of these ideas are perfectly valid and should be  
used in the specification as illustration.

-Matt

On 9-May-05, at 9:13 PM, Rex Brooks wrote:

> I really think that this does not belong as a operational component
> of SOA, but does need to be referenced as a concept without which
> very little will get done moving forward. However, I don't think it
> is in scope for the RM. For an RA, yes.
>
> Ciao,
> Rex
>
> At 8:51 PM -0400 5/9/05, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>
>> Is it true that all future s-o architectures will require identity?
>> Can we make that statement?  Do we want to make that statement?
>>
>> -Matt
>> On 9-May-05, at 8:48 PM, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Just wanted to voice my support for incorporating the abstract  
>>> concept
>>> of identity in our RM. I also note that this abstract concept can be
>>> mapped to multiple concrete concepts, such as Liberty Federated
>>> Identity, SAML tokens, etc. (getting the hang of this RM stuff!)
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> Joseph Chiusano
>>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>>> Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:36 AM
>>>> Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML
>>>> Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices"
>>>>
>>>> Sally:
>>>>
>>>> Good catch.  Ajay is a voting member of this group and I am
>>>> sure he can submit them to the member submissions area.
>>>>
>>>> While we didn't take on the gist of the work due to the fact
>>>> it was very concrete, the abstract concept of identity is
>>>> probably at least worth a discussion at some point.  Assuming
>>>> that SOA is a set of patterns implementable across multiple,
>>>> unknown environments, there is probably a section in the
>>>> service description that should be able to make some sort of
>>>> identity declaration and/or present credentials.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone wants to get into this now, perhaps we should
>>>> rename the thread to "Identity".
>>>>
>>>> Duane
>>>>
>>>> Sally St. Amand wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Having just read this blog I need to ask if the "identity"
>>>>> presentation (made at the F2F) you spoke of on Wed's call
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> related to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> this same point? I was not at the F2F. Did the presenter provide a
>>>>> copy of the slides?
>>>>>
>>>>> John Harby <jharby@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     This is an excellent blog entry from Phil:
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00096.html
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 5/6/05, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding a good recent SOA piece[1] for those interested in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>     reading it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Covers the notion of an integrated data model as a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> foundational
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     concept;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> also presents a 6-layer approach to SOA (about mid-article).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.tdan.com/i032ht02.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph Chiusano
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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