Re: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service"

[John Harby <jharby@gmail.com>]

What I liked about the sentence was that it seemed to say as little as
possible. I am concerned that at the very basic level of "service" any
unnecessary properties specified could ripple and create unwanted
restrictions later.

On 7/28/05, Chiusano Joseph <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> wrote:
> Since I've already differed with the aforementioned esteemed colleague
> on a list internal to my company, I think I can very respectfully differ
> with another very esteemed colleague here.:) My response:
> 
> <Quote>
> I would also assert that the shoe shining service exists even before its
> very first use, and that a service is a nuon rather than a verb. The act
> of performing the function provided by the service is the
> "actionalization" of the behavior that the service exhibits.
> </Quote>
> 
> Joe
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Metz Rebekah [mailto:metz_rebekah@bah.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:35 PM
> > To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service"
> >
> > Quoting from an esteemed colleague:
> >
> > "In simple terms, the definition of service is "the
> > performance of a function by one for another."  So "service"
> > does not equal "function".
> > Shoe shining is a function. I can offer to shine shoes.
> > Until I shine someone's shoes, I have not provided a service.
> >
> > This distinction makes sense when one considers the nature of
> > a contract.  An offer is the first element of a contract,
> > with acceptance and consideration being the
> > others....[Consider that] two providers may offer to perform
> > the same function, but their offers are separate and distinct."
> >
> > The more we work through these definitions; the importance of
> > precision becomes more apparent...
> >
> > So, in a roundabout sort of way, I believe that I'm agreeing
> > with Matt about "...carries out".
> >
> > Rebekah
> >
> > Rebekah Metz
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> > Booz Allen Hamilton
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:11 AM
> > > To: Chiusano Joseph
> > > Cc: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Definition(s) of "service"
> > >
> > > Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> > >
> > > >Rather than think of a service as a boundary to something, can it
> > also
> > > >be thought of as an entity that encapsulates (or "carries
> > out") a set
> > of
> > > >behaviors?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm with "...carries out a set of behaviours."
> > >
> > > -matt
> >
>