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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls


Since Duane doesn't qualify: +1

Bring on the Cristal!

Peter F Brown wrote:

>I don't think TC chairs qualify for the prize. If you read the full terms
>and conditions of the offer as published (but as yet not discovered nor
>invoked by anyone - in fact, discoverability wasn't actually built into the
>promotion offer service architecture) you would have noticed that all office
>holders of the TC are forbidden...blah blah
>
>Ah what the heck, let's just crack open the bubbly (again) when you come
>over...The good stuff's cheaper over here anyway
>
>Peter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] 
>Sent: 25 August 2005 20:28
>To: peter@justbrown.net; SOA-RM
>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
>
>+1 - champagne is mine!!!
>
>D
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>Peter F Brown wrote:
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>>I'd also suggest:
>>
>>- pre-meeting offer should be made to scribe (avoids that embarrasing 
>>foot-shuffling that you can practically hear on call): first offer 
>>posted to the list, gets the job; No proposal: last one to offer gets 
>>no dessert or has to invite whole TC to dinner at next F2F;
>>- tweaks to the minutes: send a mail to the scribe of the meeting 
>>concerned, copy to list;
>>- on call: minutes of previous meeting(s) deemed approved without 
>>discussion or decision unless before end of meeting there is an 
>>objection (by mail or point of order); -reports from liaisons and 
>>editors in writing to list before meeting (at least the key points)
>>- install webcam on Ken's car so that we can be sure he is actually 
>>driving and keeping his eyes on the road...
>>- a large dose of common sense: it's great to talk to people on call 
>>that you haven't seen at all or in a while, and to keep things a bit 
>>fun, but bear in mind that time is money (and outside the US and 
>>Canada, the call is costing a buck a minute at least - that's 
>>equivalent to my individual OASIS member fee in three meetings) and 
>>that some things really can be dealth with off line...
>>- keep the creative flow of the meeting going by allowing overtalk and 
>>interrupts where appropriate but also keep to the point: the "threads" 
>>on call can be worse than on the list: with the quality of the line 
>>sometimes making this all the worse. Duane, you may have to practice 
>>being a bit more ruthless while you're on parental leave... ;-)
>>
>>All the best, and a glass of champagne in Vienna to the first on the 
>>list to give this a +1 ...
>>
>>-Peter
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>Sent: 25 August 2005 01:27
>>Cc: SOA-RM
>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
>>
>>Example:
>>
>>An unnecessarily long discussion on suggested alternative dates (at 
>>least the portion that could be done prior to the meeting).  A 
>>discussion over the OASIS rules and procedures etc.
>>
>>Both of these can probably be best done using the WIKI or list server 
>>or at least a substantial portion thereof.
>>
>>Duane
>>
>>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
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>>>Sounds good to me Duane. For clarification, can you provide an example 
>>>of what would be considered administrivia (beyond taking roll call)?
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:16 PM
>>>>To: SOA-RM
>>>>Subject: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
>>>>
>>>>TC:
>>>>
>>>>Matt said something that tweaked my thinking a bit today.
>>>>
>>>>I would like to try and keep the use of the conference calls largely 
>>>>for technical work and confine administrivia to a minimum.  Perhaps 
>>>>most of this can be done via the list.
>>>>
>>>>Accordingly, I would look to the editing team and others to suggest 
>>>>topics that need to be discussed on the next calls.
>>>>
>>>>D.
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