Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls

[Ken Laskey <klaskey@mitre.org>]

Whoa there, are members of the editing team eligible?  I thought 
there was an OASIS process rule that expressly...

Ken

At 04:03 PM 8/25/2005, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>Since Duane doesn't qualify: +1
>
>Bring on the Cristal!
>
>Peter F Brown wrote:
>
>>I don't think TC chairs qualify for the prize. If you read the full terms
>>and conditions of the offer as published (but as yet not discovered nor
>>invoked by anyone - in fact, discoverability wasn't actually built into the
>>promotion offer service architecture) you would have noticed that all office
>>holders of the TC are forbidden...blah blah
>>
>>Ah what the heck, let's just crack open the bubbly (again) when you come
>>over...The good stuff's cheaper over here anyway
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] Sent: 25 August 2005 20:28
>>To: peter@justbrown.net; SOA-RM
>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
>>
>>+1 - champagne is mine!!!
>>
>>D
>>
>>Peter F Brown wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I'd also suggest:
>>>
>>>- pre-meeting offer should be made to scribe (avoids that 
>>>embarrasing foot-shuffling that you can practically hear on call): 
>>>first offer posted to the list, gets the job; No proposal: last 
>>>one to offer gets no dessert or has to invite whole TC to dinner at next F2F;
>>>- tweaks to the minutes: send a mail to the scribe of the meeting 
>>>concerned, copy to list;
>>>- on call: minutes of previous meeting(s) deemed approved without 
>>>discussion or decision unless before end of meeting there is an 
>>>objection (by mail or point of order); -reports from liaisons and 
>>>editors in writing to list before meeting (at least the key points)
>>>- install webcam on Ken's car so that we can be sure he is 
>>>actually driving and keeping his eyes on the road...
>>>- a large dose of common sense: it's great to talk to people on 
>>>call that you haven't seen at all or in a while, and to keep 
>>>things a bit fun, but bear in mind that time is money (and outside 
>>>the US and Canada, the call is costing a buck a minute at least - 
>>>that's equivalent to my individual OASIS member fee in three 
>>>meetings) and that some things really can be dealth with off line...
>>>- keep the creative flow of the meeting going by allowing overtalk 
>>>and interrupts where appropriate but also keep to the point: the 
>>>"threads" on call can be worse than on the list: with the quality 
>>>of the line sometimes making this all the worse. Duane, you may 
>>>have to practice being a bit more ruthless while you're on 
>>>parental leave... ;-)
>>>
>>>All the best, and a glass of champagne in Vienna to the first on 
>>>the list to give this a +1 ...
>>>
>>>-Peter
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>>Sent: 25 August 2005 01:27
>>>Cc: SOA-RM
>>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
>>>
>>>Example:
>>>
>>>An unnecessarily long discussion on suggested alternative dates 
>>>(at least the portion that could be done prior to the meeting).  A 
>>>discussion over the OASIS rules and procedures etc.
>>>
>>>Both of these can probably be best done using the WIKI or list 
>>>server or at least a substantial portion thereof.
>>>
>>>Duane
>>>
>>>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sounds good to me Duane. For clarification, can you provide an 
>>>>example of what would be considered administrivia (beyond taking roll call)?
>>>>
>>>>Joe
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:16 PM
>>>>>To: SOA-RM
>>>>>Subject: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
>>>>>
>>>>>TC:
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt said something that tweaked my thinking a bit today.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would like to try and keep the use of the conference calls 
>>>>>largely for technical work and confine administrivia to a 
>>>>>minimum.  Perhaps most of this can be done via the list.
>>>>>
>>>>>Accordingly, I would look to the editing team and others to 
>>>>>suggest topics that need to be discussed on the next calls.
>>>>>
>>>>>D.
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