RE: [soa-rm] Microsoft SOA Reference Model

["John, Anil" <Anil.John@jhuapl.edu>]

The reality is that any vendor's implementation of a SOA RA will map to their technology solutions. Their RA will definitely be closer to the metal than what we would want and it would be unrealistic of us to expect otherwise. While Microsoft does not push the "SOA" moniker to a great extent, they do have a vision around Service Orientation as articulated by their "Connected Systems" strategy. From what I can see, especially if you looking to link up human based workflow into a SO solution, they probably have the most clearly articulated and functional solution (in the current timeframe). 

What would be worthwhile, IMHO, is to see if we can get input/participation from the vendors around normalizing some of the terminology around Service Orientation. So that at the minimum, when we call the pot black, we know that we are talking about a cooking utensil and not the "I didn't inhale" variety :-)

Regards,

- Anil



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 3:39 PM
> To: Danny Thornton; Duane Nickull; Ken Laskey
> Cc: Chiusano, Joseph; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Microsoft SOA Reference Model
> 
> No problem Danny,
> 
> Åll anyone needs to is to just wrap webMethods SOA Fabric 
> (they are now owned by Software AG) around Systinet's SOA 
> Governance (a UDDI Regitsry), and around IBM's Enterprise 
> Service Bus and serve it up on a Sharepoint Platter, y'think?
> 
> Of course, you will need to retrofit the abstractions.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rex
> 
> At 10:37 AM -0700 4/22/07, Danny Thornton wrote:
> >From what I saw of John's architecture, it has a long
> >way to go.   I was also thinking about responding and
> >offering an invitation to John to join the RA work.
> >
> >Another option: While OASIS is open and encourages a broad 
> spectrum of 
> >coorporation, it would be entertaining to see if any individual, 
> >company, or organization could produce a better SOA Reference 
> >Architecture than the OASIS SOA RA group.
> >
> >Danny
> >
> >--- Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  I would honestly love for John E. to come and work  with 
> us on this.  
> >> He is a  smart guy and would be able to contribute  
> substantially to 
> >> the project.
> >>
> >>  Duane
> >>
> >>
> >>  On 4/22/07 8:35 AM, "Ken Laskey" <klaskey@mitre.org>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>  > I think this should really give impetus to our RA  
> work.  People 
> >> complain it is  > too abstract but I've gotten people to 
> agree that  
> >> one of the major problems  > has been that no one has 
> agreed on the 
> >> "obvious".
> >>  Now we need to give them
> >>  > that next step.
> >>  >
> >>  > On to Pasadena...
> >>  >
> >>  > Ken
> >>  >
> >>  > On Apr 22, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >>  I just posted a comment on the blog.  It is no  where near 
> >> abstract as it  >> claims.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Duane
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  On 4/21/07 4:00 PM, "Chiusano, Joseph"
> >>  <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> wrote:
> >>  >>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>> Passing along this SOA reference model news:
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>
> >>
> >http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/04/ms-soa-reference-model
> >>  >>>
> >>
> ><http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/04/ms-soa-reference-model>
> >>  >>>  "Microsoft SOA Reference Model, Initial Draft  of the 
> >> Introductory Chapter"
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>  The author, John Evdemon, is the co-chair of  the BPEL TC.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>  Joe
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>
> >>  >>   
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>
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