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Subject: RE: [tag] tag meeting minutes 2007-05-17
Oops…I just read this email. I like posting minutes on the Wiki better,
since other people can make changes if something is not accurate. Also the
minutes I saw Jacques posted on the WG site are kinda lumped together with other
documents. Can we put a link on the WG site to link to the minute page on the
Wiki which I have already created one at http://wiki.oasis-open.org/tag/MeetingMinutes.
Have a look, if we don’t like the wiki approach we can go back to the WG
site. - Serm From: Patrick.Curran@Sun.COM [mailto:Patrick.Curran@Sun.COM] Victor and I have just briefly discussed the use of
the Wiki.We realized that the OASIS "collaboration software" (see our
homepage at http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tag/)
already provides some useful tools. Specifically, email archiving, document
management, a calendar, and a simple action-item management system. There's no
reason for us to re-invent the wheel, and since there will be some expectations
on the part of people outside the group that they'll be able to find things
here, I suggest that we use these facilities for: I will post this on
the Wiki once I know the URL. For the time being, here it is the minute for
2007-05-17 call. Thanks, Serm ---------------------------------- Participants: Jacques Durand Serm Kulvatunyou Hyunbo Cho Kevin Looney Mary McRae Patrick Curran Paul Rank Victor Rudometov Vladimir Rudometov Stephen Green Summary of action items: - Everybody
posts example test assertions that they know of. - Everybody
posts questions/challenges/concerns on the wiki for future
discussions. - Everybody posts
related works on the test assertion specification/guideline. - VR and PC
will report more about Wiki. - Discuss
meeting schedule on the email. - Discuss F2F
meeting. - Discuss about Web-based sharing tool. PC: May have suggestion and sponsoring of another web-based
sharing tool. - Discuss about scheduling JD: Another option to resolve the time difference is to have
two meetings at different times such as 11am EST and midnight EST. The latter
one would allow participants from PC: Alternate the time every week. All
important agenda items will be discussed on both meetings. Results
of
discussion from one meeting will be posted
on the
Wiki for additional comments. HC: Prefer to have just one conference and the
current time is okay for him. - Wiki - as a collaboration platform to alleviate time
differences. PC: Not recommend to use
Wiki for editing the specification. It is better to use it
for a specific piece of work or for managing
issues list. PC: Propose that VR be the wiki
master. VR: Will take a look closer at the Wiki and
report
to the group next time. - Face to Face meeting PC: JD: Let’s exchange more emails about this. - Scope and readership of
the specification VS: MSFT XPS specification is an example
- http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/xps/downloads.mspx. Entity
under tests are for example classes, parameters in java, complexType,
simpleType in XML. JD: So you mean to start from looking at
existing test assertions for existing specifications like java and try to
abstract from there. PC: And think about what else are not
covered
by
those existing materials. JD: Homework for everyone is to share
existing TA that they know of. PC: Suggest to post questions/challenges
about TA on the Wiki/mailing list. This will help
scope. Hope to have something more than just rewording
statements from the specification. OTOH, also think that
the TA
spec should be simple enough to be used by
specification developers. VS: Is test coverage computation in the scope? PC: It is out of scope, our work
should
provide a ground for test coverage analysis though. Serm: Agree. Test coverage needs
the mapping b/w TA and Test Case. Since we have no test case, we can’t
do test coverage. JD: TA= how to verify a spec requirement
(assuming an abstract-enough test model) VS:
For simplicity I suggest to use COVERAGE=number of tested test assertions. |
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