OASIS Mailing List ArchivesView the OASIS mailing list archive below
or browse/search using MarkMail.

 


Help: OASIS Mailing Lists Help | MarkMail Help

tm-pubsubj-comment message

[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [Elist Home]


Subject: Re: [tm-pubsubj-comment] Relevance of dc:subject to PSIs


At 15:10 25/04/02 +0000, Murray Altheim wrote:
>>To be honest I didn't know we were going to "all the trouble to make 
>>XTM/PSI sets ISO 11179 compliant". I know next to nothing about ISO 11179 
>>(probably shouldn't admit that in public :) It's not that I doubt you're 
>>right, but could you explain?
>
>I brought this up several times during the original XTM discussions
>(though I'm not complaining at all about anyone not remembering that),
>such that ISO 11179 is a metadata standard, and insofar as TMs provide
>hooks into metadata or themselves contain metadata, there should IMO
>be hooks in XTM for ISO 11179. These "hooks" can simply be PSIs.

So we are not, in fact, going to "all the trouble to make XTM/PSI sets ISO 
11179 compliant", but you think we should be. Fair enough. It would be good 
if you could submit a proposal to that effect, perhaps including wording to 
amend the requirements document, and indicate what exactly it would mean in 
practice.

[ISO 11179 was a bit of a red herring with respect to the particular 
discussion at hand, so let's not continue talking about it in this thread.]

>Steve continues:
>>However, that's a side issue. My real problem is that I simply don't 
>>understand how you think we would use dc:subject. That's why I asked what 
>>a typical value might be.
>>
>>Let me try and make it easier for you to help me. In the following 
>>example of a piece of text used as a PSI and employing DC semantics, what 
>>might go in the spot marked "*****"?
>>
>>   Title:        Norway
>>   Description:  Country in the Scandinavian peninsula bordering
>>                 on Sweden, Finland, and Russia.
>>   Identifier:   http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/1.0/country.xtm#no
>>   Subject:      *****
>>
>>...
>
>Let me give two concrete, valuable examples (both hypothetical):
>
>...

This discussion was triggered by my contention that dc:subject did not have 
any relevance to PSIs, only to PSI sets. If you could have answered the 
simple question posed above, I might have been in a position to understand 
exactly what you intended with your "two concrete, valuable examples". 
Unfortunately you didn't, so I'm still in the dark.

If the question above is not answerable for some reason, please say so. 
Otherwise please tell me what might go in the spot marked "*****". That, 
more than anything else, will help me understand why you think dc:subject 
is relevant to PSIs.

Thanks.

Steve

--
Steve Pepper, Chief Executive Officer <pepper@ontopia.net>
Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34/WG3  Editor, XTM (XML Topic Maps)
Ontopia AS, Waldemar Thranes gt. 98, N-0175 Oslo, Norway.
http://www.ontopia.net/ phone: +47-23233080 GSM: +47-90827246



[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [Elist Home]


Powered by eList eXpress LLC