Subject: Re: [tm-pubsubj] Contradicting a PSI
Benard, Bernard Vatant wrote: > Patrick > > I meant (I think Lars Marius also) a contradiction in the following sense > > Publisher declares a PSI to identify a subject A > User uses it as a PSI to identify a topic X, of which actual subject is B, > not identical to A. > > 'A is not identical to B' means 'it exists some assertion true for B that > is false for A'. > This is the simplest way to say two subjects are different : you can say > something which is true for one and false for the other. > > This is in which the user 'contradicts' the publisher definition. > Had to think about that one for a moment... So the contradiction is that some assertion could (not necessarily has been) be made that would be true for one subject and not for the other? That seems like a long reach to have a notion of contradiction of the publishers definition. If you are applying a subject definition, isn't it enough to say that the subject B (here the rogue subject) must not be identified with a different subject, here subject A? I guess what I am still not seeing is the mileage you get from saying contradiction as opposed to mis-identification. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick > Of course, if the subject definition is formal, that can be detected by > reasoners. > If the definition is unformal, it could not show as easily ... > just the usual confusion and fuzzyness of natural language ... > > No more, no less. > > Bernard Vatant > Senior Consultant > Knowledge Engineering > Mondeca - www.mondeca.com > email@example.com > > > >>-----Message d'origine----- >>De : Patrick Durusau [mailto:Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org] >>Envoye : lundi 8 mars 2004 21:31 >>A : firstname.lastname@example.org >>Objet : [tm-pubsubj] Contradicting a PSI >> >> >>Greetings! >> >>The phrase "contradicting a PSI" was used several times today in our >>conference call and I wanted to make sure I was understanding it (as >>intended). >> >> From what I gathered from the discussion, to "contradict" a PSI means >>to use it for a subject(mySubject) that is different (however great or >>small the difference) from the PSI subject? >> >>When I hear "contradict," I take it in the sense of denial, "the earth >>is flat," which I would "contradict" in the sense of denying the truth >>of that statement. >> >>What I take to be the meaning of "contradict a PSI" is that I have >>identified a subject using that PSI, that is in fact not the subject >>(however close or far apart) of the PSI. >> >>I suppose that is contradiction if you say it that way but it is not >>what automatically comes to mind. >> >>More a case of mis-identification if I have one subject and choose a PSI >>that represents another subject to represent the subject I am talking >>about? >> >>Not a big issue but one where I think we need to be careful in >>explaining how we are using the term "contradiction." >> >>Hope everyone is having a great day! >> >>Patrick >> >> >>-- >>Patrick Durusau >>Director of Research and Development >>Society of Biblical Literature >>Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org >>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface >>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model >> >>Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work! >> >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the >>roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tm-pubsubj/members/leave_workg > roup.php. > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/tm-pubsubj/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > -- Patrick Durusau Director of Research and Development Society of Biblical Literature Patrick.Durusau@sbl-site.org Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!