Re: [xtm-wg] [xtm-iss] Materials

[Jack Park <jackpark@verticalnet.com>]

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Dale,
It was not my talk. Rather, it was an inspiring talk by David Dodds:
Simultaneous Topic Maps and RDF Metadata Structures in SVG.

BTW: the signature that goes out on my email is not under my control.
Jack

From: Dale Hunscher <dale@supportability.com>
> I am keeping an open mind, Jack, so don't take my trepidations too
> seriously. I didn't hear your talk but I'll look for it online.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Park" <jackpark@verticalnet.com>
> To: <xtm-wg@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] [xtm-iss] Materials
>
>
> >
> > Dale,
> > The talk at Xtreme 2000 made it, as I recall, quite clear that imbedding
> > anything in SVG left each activity separate.  I don't recall that any
> > modification to XTM would be required in order to imbed it inside SVG.
> > Graphical representation remains quite separate from knowledge
> > representation. Your humble opinion is shared by nearly everyone I have
> > talked with on this matter. My hunch is, however, that SVG would need
some
> > reference into XTM in order to handle mouse clicks, but references to
SVG
> > from XTM would not be necessary. I hope that I have been able to clear
up
> > the notion that there exists any entanglements between XTM and SVG.  The
> > marriage of SVG with XTM seems to make sense, and will likely continue
to
> do
> > so until I actually code it up and try it.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > From: Dale Hunscher <dale@supportability.com>
> > > When I look at your message it sounds to me as though you are saying
> there
> > > would be XTM topic maps that would have some sort of outer wrapper
> > > associated with some sort of graphics format? IMHO any kind of
graphical
> > > representation issue is separate from something like a topic map which
> > > represents the knowledge layer.
> > >
> > > Topic maps originated from the insight that knowledge needed to be
> > separated
> > > from content because it had value in and of itself. Performing that
> > > separation and then entangling the knowledge layer with the
presentation
> > > layer seems to be one step forward and then N steps back.
> > >
> > > Apologies if I am misunderstanding your intent. I have made this kind
of
> > > mistake before and paid for it, so perhaps I'm being overly sensitive
to
> > it.
> > >
> > > Dale Hunscher
> > > South Wind Design, Inc.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Park [mailto:jackpark@verticalnet.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 1:44 PM
> > > To: xtm-wg@egroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] [xtm-iss] Materials
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Comments reading the materials:
> > >
> > > This is likely a naive question, but the ISS paper on deliverables
notes
> > two
> > > namespaces: xlink and topicmap.  We allow xpath in addressing and my
> read
> > on
> > > xpath http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath suggests that it brings along with it
> > > namespace issues. Is xpath itself a namespace?
> > >
> > > Interesting thought: asking ISO 13250 to stay up with XTM :-)
> > >
> > > Regarding HyTime notes under Design decision: Miscellaneous, I must
ask
> > just
> > > how forward-looking XTM should be.  I raise this point given my
> > > understanding that we are not all that far from doing major chunks of
> > HyTime
> > > with XML; my hunch is that XTM ought to "be there when the coast
> arrives"
> > > (old California earthquake joke).
> > >
> > > On public subjects and identity, I must ask if public subjects take on
> the
> > > semantics associated with inheritance.  If so, multiple identity links
> > would
> > > imply multiple inheritance, n'est-ce pas?
> > >
> > > I did not see the white paper on using XSLT to transform TMs to SVG.
> Does
> > > it exist?  I got from the Xtreme 2000 that it is possible to imbed TMs
> > > inside SVG, meaning that one need not do a post-hoc transform.  The TM
> DTD
> > > does not make room for the necessary information for any kind of
> graphical
> > > presentation, so imbeding makes more sense.  Here, I am refering to
the
> > open
> > > source project to be included with the book.  When a
> graphically-generated
> > > XTM object is serialized, the serialization process starts with SVG,
> > > imbedding the XTM stuff inside (at least, that's the way I plan to
code
> it
> > > up).  No layout information is lost.
> > >
> > > Just my 0.02 Euros for now.
> > > Jack



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