Re: [xtm-wg] "New faces"

[Sam Hunting <sam_hunting@yahoo.com>]

Responses inline.

> > Sam Hunting wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry for the delayed response to this mail--
> > 
> > [jean writes]
> > > > I will be present at the meeting (we might arrive at twelve the
> > > > first day).  If the group accept an invited guest, I will come
> with
> > > > Pascal Auillans, PHD student from Bordeaux University working
> with
> > > > Mondeca.
> > 
> > [steve writes]
> > > Under the rules, we have to vote on this before he can be allowed
> to
> > > attend.  I vote "no".  This is not a training exercise, and we
> are
> > > systematically excluding new faces until after the 1.0 release,
> as
> > > the minutes of the last meeting indicate.
> >
> > Actually,  the "new faces" excluded are participating members, not
> > invited guests. (From the minutes: "Consideration of applications
> for
> > Participating Membership will be deferred until after December
> 2000")
> 
> That's IMO a loophole, not the intent of the decision.

I'm afraid I'm a strict constructionist with regard to the minutes. If
we start discussing "intent", I fear we will never end. Of course, I
proposed the motion at issue, so I am probably as equipped to close
this can of worms as anyone; therefore, I was clear that it was
Participating Members that I meant, and not Invited Guests.

> The problem is that we are friendly people

I am not so friendly that I would have difficulty moving against any or
all invited guests, should I feel (or you, Murray, express to me your
feeling) that the meeting was becoming bogged down by their presence,
or if there were simply too many of them. (What a nice problem for a
bunch of "old school" SGMLers to have, eh?)

The principle at issue (I think we are agreed) is that the work must be
done quickly; if invited guests speed this, well and good; if they
don't, we'll un- or dis-invite them.

S.

P.S. It might be a good idea to put clarifying the procedure for
inviting guests on the agenda for Swindon.

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