RE: [xtm-wg] Topic Map Queries

["Wrightson, Ann" <Ann.Wrightson@sweetandmaxwell.co.uk>]

Actually, I agree! - and I would hope to see a "TMQL" activity existing
soonish alongside XML Query (though probably in a different "universe"),
...even potentially with some effective liaison between the two efforts...

I have been looking again at the original responses to the UCS-group usecase
survey, with "query" specs on - if anyone has additional query-specific
usecases (& by usecase I mean more than stating an application: at least a
concise statement of motivating requirement, pre-state, and expected result
please) - then I would be very interested to see them.

I want to make sure this aspect is covered in the UCS responses to recent
ISS and CMS work, and also to encourage all to continue to lay the
groundwork for the formal TMQL development, howsoever that may occur.

Cheers

Ann W.

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> Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] Topic Map Queries
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> 
> While I agree with Ann's assertion that searching a Topic Map 
> may be no less a
> job that searching the Web, and should be seen in those 
> terms, I am less sure
> about the conclusion that there cannot be a topic map query 
> language.  I agree
> that there are many possible ways you could construct a 
> search strategy.  At
> Extreme ML 2000, where I tried to float the phrase "Fuzzy 
> Topic Maps", I was
> thinking about agents navigating topic maps looking for 
> content that matched
> some pattern or set of patterns, with association weightings 
> guiding where the
> agent looks next.  Such an agent could improve itself 
> genetically by building
> up its own association weightings based on feedback from its user.
> 
> However, away from this "agent" view, which doesn't really 
> correspond to the
> way most people do searches in the here and now, if a topic 
> map cannot be
> searched like a big database, then it will seem like a black 
> hole of lost
> information to many users.  There needs to be a standard way of
> searching/querying a topic map, a standard way that can be 
> supported by all
> search tools.  It doesn't have to express every possible 
> nuance of how you
> could interpret a topic map.  It doesn't have to constrain 
> search tools which
> might care to extend it.  However, I do think a core query 
> language would be a
> very good thing.  It would be nice if it were close to some 
> standard XML Query
> Language, but since we don't have one of those yet, the field 
> seems somewhat
> open.
> 
> So, all I really want to suggest is that an 80/20 query 
> language might be a big
> help in getting XTM accepted as a preferred paradigm for hyperlinked
> information.
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 		Tony.
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> Anthony B. Coates
> Leader of XML Architecture & Design
> Chief Technology Office
> Reuters Plc, London.
> tony.coates@reuters.com
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