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Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] Promotion of Conceptual Model
Daniel, I think it's silly for us to be spending time debating whether or not our use of UML vs. DTD syntax are more formal. We could debate this and it might be fun. But the DTD already *is* in an annex, and there is a section (currently titled "XTM Syntax Documentation") that describes what the syntax means for XTM. What I'm proposing is that the UML diagrams likewise appear in an annex (since we should not *expect* people to understand them as a requirement of understanding the specification any more than we should expect them to understand XML syntax), and use the forward parts of the spec (currently titled "Terminology", "Basic Concepts", "Advanced Topic Map Features", and "XTM Processing Model", this latter still a question) to document in prose what we conceptually mean by topic maps and how they are constructed and processed. There is a symmetry here that I think is fair, and would also be a logical construction that is intuitive for our audience. As I said earlier, I don't know what *else* would be in these portions of the specification. If we can't express what I've suggested in those sections, we should give up and go home. That's what this spec must do. It doesn't just dump a bunch of UML diagrams and a DTD in people's faces (not that you are suggesting that). There is a difference (that I'm guessing you and I disagree about) regarding our flavour of UML (as described in Eliot's PDF document) and the "normativeness" of XML syntax, but as I said above I don't see the value in us spending time debating that. As you've said, we have people assigned to write this stuff up. I'm very much looking forward to the first submissions, so that they might be ripped to appropriate shreds by Sam and redigested by me into the online document. We've set up a churn-mill and we need some grist, rather than a lot of further discussions of the grist. We have very little time, and with no grist our mill will be rather useless. To continue with this goofy metaphor, we can't bake bread, muffins or bagels until we have the flour. Murray ........................................................................... Murray Altheim, SGML/XML Grease Monkey <mailto:altheim@eng.sun.com> XML Technology Center Sun Microsystems, 1601 Willow Rd., MS UMPK17-102, Menlo Park, CA 94025 In the evening The rice leaves in the garden Rustle in the autumn wind That blows through my reed hut. -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> Create your business web site your way now at Bigstep.com. It's the fast, easy way to get online, to promote your business, and to sell your products and services. Try Bigstep.com now. http://click.egroups.com/1/9183/1/_/337252/_/974487600/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com
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