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Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] RE: [xtm-mktg] Re: XTM tag line
This might be late because I've been away from the office, but how about "Smarter Surfing" "Surf Smarter" "SurfSmart" "Smurf" (just kidding here :) "Find what you look for" "Find what you want" Peter -----Original Message----- From: Michel Biezunski [mailto:mb@infoloom.com] Sent: 21 November 2000 08:56 To: xtm-wg@egroups.com Subject: RE: [xtm-wg] RE: [xtm-mktg] Re: XTM tag line FYI Weaving the Web is the title of Tim Berners Lee's book. Michel ========================================== Michel Biezunski, InfoLoom Tel +33 1 44 59 84 29 Cell +33 6 03 99 25 29 Email: mb@infoloom.com Web: www.infoloom.com ========================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Gennusa [mailto:pam@gennusa.u-net.com] > Sent: November 20, 2000 9:21 PM > To: xtm-mktg@egroups.com; xtm-wg@egroups.com > Subject: [xtm-wg] RE: [xtm-mktg] Re: XTM tag line > > > Dianne verbally suggested Weaving the Semantic Web to me (not sure if she > put it in an email yet), and I think this is better than Weaving > the Web, so > could this be considered a seconded suggestion (Dianne mutes and Pam > seconds)? > > Pam > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@ms.lt] > > Sent: Monday, 20 November, 2000 5:04 PM > > To: xtm-wg@egroups.com > > Cc: xtm-mktg@egroups.com > > Subject: [xtm-mktg] Re: XTM tag line > > > > > > > pconn@gca.org wrote: > > > > > > All suggestions and seconds posted to xtm-wg list by today (Monday), > > > 2:00 PM eastern time. I'll create a poll with all options that have > > > been seconded, and we'll conclude the poll tomorrow morning > > (Tuesday) > > > at 11:00 am eastern time. > > > > Here's what we have so far: > > > > Candidates: > > > > *) Untangling the Web > > *) Weaving the Web > > *) Navigate Web Topics Meaningfully > > *) Put Meaning In, Get Knowledge Out > > *) The Meaningful Web > > *) Enabling Subject-based Collaborative Commerce > > *) Collaborative Corporate Memory, Anyone? > > *) Making the other 90% of corporate information findable > > *) Industrial-strength Findability > > *) Subject-based power to exploit information assets > > *) Making The Web Mean Something > > *) subject-based power to exploit information assets > > *) Making irrelevant information disappear. > > *) Bringing more knowledge than information > > *) Find your way through information to knowledge > > *) Mapping the web > > _________________________ > > > > Suggestions, need to be seconded: > > > > *) XTM: Star chart for the infoverse > > *) Powering the World-Wide Semantic Web > > *) From information to knowledge > > *) Give context for information > > *) Give context to information > > *) For a structured web > > *) Structure the web > > *) Structure web content > > *) Roadmaps and Catalogues for Cyberspace > > *) Binding the points! > > *) Understanding the web > > *) StyleSheets for Knowledge > > *) Put the semantics into the web. > > *) Map Your Meaning, Share It With Others, Integrate Your World > > *) Meaningful Links and Sensible Pointers > > *) Making The Web Mean Something > > *) Navigate Web Topics Meaningfully > > *) A Simple, Flexible Model That Allows Meaningful > > Browsing/Navigating/Searching/Querying of Web-based Information. > > *) Knowledge Maps for Everyone > > *) Put Meaning In, Get Knowledge Out > > *) Just Add Meaning > > *) Map Your Meaning and Share Your Map > > *) Show Me Your Map, That I May Understand You > > *) Semantics In, Precision Out > > *) Meaningful Links Allow Efficient, Precise Searching > > *) Stir In Meaning, Undangle Pointers, and Presto > > *) Enabling global knowledge connectivity > > *) The Meaningful Web > > *) Enabling Subject-based Collaborative Commerce > > *) Collaborative Corporate Memory, Anyone? > > *) Making the other 90% of corporate information findable > > *) The Haystacks Disappear, The Needles Remain > > *) 7 search hits are interesting, 7,000 are not > > *) Industrial-strength Findability > > *) Many languages, One combinable finding resource > > *) 'way, 'way beyond full text searching > > *) subject-based power to exploit information assets > > *) Making irrelevant information disappear. > > > > Yours, > > Andrius > > > > Andrius Kulikauskas > > XTM Marketing Committee member > > > > ****************************************** > > Here are some excerpts from letters: > > > > >*) The Meaningful Web > > > > > > > > >4) It is short - does it have any unwanted connotations? > > >5) It's defensible - does it capture what we're doing? > > > > Yes, but to a somewhat lesser extent than untangling the web, > > primarily I think it has a more bland tone. > > I prefer the more 'positive' action oriented, 'untangling' > > (get rid of the mess) or weave 'make sense of' > > > > Regards DaveP > > > > ****************************************** > > > > Pam Gennusa: > > Hello > > > > Although Weaving the Web has nice alliteration, I don't think > > it really > > says > > much about what the benefit is. Untangling the web is better, but > > focuses on > > a negative which may be good in the short term, but may not > > be good 2-3 > > years down the road. From the list below, I'm pulled to the ideas that > > focus > > on 'meaning' > > > > ****************************************** > > > > Powering the World-Wide Semantic Web > > > > especially if the word 'semantic' was handwritten in like an editor's > > note > > maybe the word 'semantic' should be 'meaningful' > > maybe the word 'powering' should be 'the power behind' > > but something along the lines of XTM being the power behind something > > really > > useful > > > > Pam Gennusa > > > > ****************************************** > > Untangling is good. I'd vote with Eric on this. > > My colleague Jay points out that "Weaving the Web" is the title of a > > book by > > Tim Berners-Lee. I think that probably disqualifies it - we don't want > > lawsuits or > > accusations of misappropriating Tim's words. I think that makes > > "Untangling > > the Web" and even stronger candidate! > > > > Daniel > > > > ****************************************** > > > > I vote for "Untangling the Web" > > (I find it's better than the one I proposed) > > > > Michel > > > > ****************************************** > > My paranoid fantasy that is that "Untangling the web" could > > be taken as > > too close to TBL's title. > > > > Perhaps the marketers are familiar with the (legal and other) issues > > involved with tag lines that are not identical but very similar, and > > make a judgment. > > > > S. > > > > ****************************************** > > "Web" oriented slogans are probably good marketing, but > > somewhere along > > the > > way we shouldn't forget that there are lots of uses that aren't on the > > Web > > (like what I talked about in Montréal). > > > > Jim Mason > > > > ****************************************** > > Some comments from letters: > > > > Eric Freese: > > I'm not sure "Style Sheets" is appropriate. I liked Dave's > > "Untangling > > the Web". There have to be some pretty good "Map" metaphors > > that could > > be > > used here. > > > > ****************************************** > > Jean Delahousse: > > I think it should not be too technical. I like things like " > > Weaving the > > Web", it's active, simple, clear > > > > ****************************************** > > Murray Altheim: > > The last thing I'd like XTM to be associated with is style sheets. It > > really diminishes the importance of what topic maps are about, > > suggesting we're about appearance rather than actually > > content. The fur > > coat is more important than the person wearing it, etc. > > > > ****************************************** > > Steve Newcomb > > [Re: StyleSheets for Knowledge] > > Eeek! I object. This slogan appears to define what topic maps are, > > while ignoring at least half of the capabilities and value of topic > > maps. I think it's misleading. Topic maps are also about information > > management (imposition of arbitrary topical structure, infoglut > > control, elimination of redundancy, collaborative indexing, making > > finding information an interchangeable, licensable resource, > > etc. etc.). The information management angle is at least as > > significant, in terms of human productivity enhancement, as the "Style > > Sheets for Knowledge" angle, which I think refers to the ability of > > topic maps to allow information resources to be hidden in ways that > > are highly adapted to the user's context (user knowledge, interests, > > delivery platform, etc.). With topic maps, you get both of these > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > -------------------------~-~> > > eLerts > > It's Easy. It's Fun. 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