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Subject: [xtm-wg] Re : purpose and new members
I know messages on this list should stay technical, it's its formal purpose, but I don't think a group or "community" can keep only on the technical ground, without tackling the human and social questions raised by its own development. And for now, this list is somehow the only place we can debate about these problems. But we are indeed facing debates which could mislead newcomers on this list to understand there is some sort of "growth crisis" for XTM - well, that is in itself a good sign that it is growing ;-) This project/group has started around a core of people knowing each other quite well I imagine - was not there at the time - around precise technical tools and objectives. They had the wisdom to set rules anticipating the group growth, allowing both new people/ideas to come in and keep stability. The Charter for TopicMaps.org is quite clear on that. See http://www.topicmaps.org/org/XTM-charter-final-20000610.html ; for those who did not read it yet, please take time to do it ! Now we are in the stage than more and more people are interested and would like to participate in what they feel like an open and contributive project. Yes it is open and contributive, but only "so far". I don't feel it's "odd" to ask who is "in" and who is "out" the decision-making process, who has the right to participate and say his word about what, how final decisions are settled, who is responsible of what etc. All these things must be crystal clear to everyone involved here, whatever his/her level and role. Maybe they are not felt or interpreted the same way by everyone, but at least everyone can and must refer to this same public set of rules. Asking if this list is the right place for these debates, and if every internal AG problem has to be publicly debated here is another question. In fact the growth of XTM universe should lead to replace this tool by different more on-purpose tool(s). Let alone the question of leaving egroups, which BTW seems quite in standby, I think we are going to face more and more various motivations here beside pure specification development : business and educational applications, marketing, RDF-XTM merging etc ... The "one-for-all" list will not fit all these tasks without being soon overloaded. But we'll need space for all these tasks anyway. I imagine we could develop another sort of discussion space, based on a TM structure - I think we have the tools to do that now - where one could filter and associate messages and "topics" : people, discussion subjects etc. Putting access rights on some subjects like "voting for a new member" would be possible and indeed a good idea. There are 17 voting PM on this list, and about 200 suscribers, and I understand many of them don't care about "who is in and who is out", and will get soon fedup with these debates when they are looking for effective technical work. I hope we get a bit of time to discuss that point in Paris. Cheers Bernard --------------------------------------- Bernard Vatant bernard@universimmedia.com www.universimmedia.com "Building Knowledge" --------------------------------------- To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com
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