Re: [xtm-wg] Re: Fixing language.xtm and country.xtm

[Murray Altheim <altheim@eng.sun.com>]

Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> 
> * nogievet@cogx.com
> |
> | What (I think) Murray, Sam and Patrick are saying is that you are
> | welcome to suggest changes, fixes, new documents, etc.  but until
> | and if they are approved in Montreal, they will have to carry
> | "suggested" status...
> 
> And what I have been saying repeatedly is that I want to prepare a
> proposal that will have 'suggested' status in time for the meeting in
> Montreal. That way it can be approved there and adopted immediately.

This is your fallacy. There can be no "immediate" adoption. The TC will
create an agenda item to discuss *as part of an approved work item* any
projects that have been submitted. There needs to be a period of input
and review from the TC, not a rubber stamp of some work done prior to
the meeting that nobody but a few people had any input on.

> What I have further been saying repeatedly is that until Murray
> publishes his updated versions there is nothing for me to comment on,
> except for the existing versions I have already commented, and those
> comments have been completely ignored.

You're not the only person I expect to be in the TC. Until we have 
received feedback from all people in the TC during a proper review
period, I would be privileging your input over the dozen or so others
who should have equal say over how these topic maps are constructed.
As it is right now, if you and I disagree on either the approach or
the details, I'm the bad boy for not following your orders. With a 
process in place to arbitrate proper input, a final product that 
satisfies the requirements of the group (which don't yet exist) can
be achieved. Rushing this forward only disenfranchises those who
should be a part of the decision-making process. And if the group
decides that the approach or details aren't what you and I right now
might take, we haven't wasted any effort. A proper discussion of the
issues needs to take place. I don't expect that will occur on this
list in the next month or so.

Murray

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Murray Altheim                            <mailto:altheim&#x40;eng.sun.com>
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