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Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] Fixing language.xtm and country.xtm
> * Lars Marius Garshol > | > | I am very glad to hear that there are others in the community who > | are willing to do real work right now. If enough people are this > | proposal should have a good chance of going through. > > * Sam Hunting > | > | I cannot resist applauding your rhetorical strategy of begging the > | question -- classifying work that requires consensus within a > | standards body or some other organization as somehow not "real" is > | a beautiful smooth move! > > Yeah, so smooth that even I couldn't detect it. Would you mind > explaining what you are talking about? You used the word "rhetoric" in one of your earlier postings, so I assumed you were familiar with the tools of that trade. To "beg the question" is make a statement that assumes what is to be proved. It is a standard rhetorical tactic in argumentation. (I make no moral judgment about rhetoric, the art of persuasion -- all humans use it. It is also, though thousands of years old, very close to document analysis. The very notion of "topic" comes from rhetoric.) So this is how I read your statement above -- by claiming that you want to go ahead with "real work", you make the implicit claim that Murray (and Nikita, and myself) do *not* want to go ahead with "real work." In fact, what makes work "real" is what is open to question! Murray (and I, and I think Nikita) feel that some institutional questions to be settled in Montreal (we hope) before "real work" can proceed. You don't seem to agree. Well and good -- you will proceed, post your material as your own (I assume), and others will make use of it as they see fit (as Patrick suggests). So, you see that I have been listening closely to what you say. Always a good tactic if one wishes to be listened to, eh? S. P.S. Incidentally, for an example of "work" whether real or not -- done, as Lars is about to do, absent authority other than moral -- see Steve and Michel's recent postings on an XML version of the Topic Map Graph. ===== <!-- "To imagine a language is to imagine a form of life." - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations --> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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