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Subject: RE: [tosca] Proposal for requirement "occurrences"
We really do need to separate grammar discussions from discussions about the core concepts. I do agree with you that TOSCA has always hinted at runtime requirements. Way back years ago when I made my TOSCA tutorial (for 1.0) it was there in the spec as suggestive little wordings, but I could not see how
it could be implemented coherently. For example, in TOSCA 1.0 this is how node_filter for node templates was described:
Note that there is no mention of "at runtime" here, and example 2.9.2 is the only place where it is used. And what does "target node" mean here? Target of what? This implies that it relates somehow to the
requirements of this node template. Anyway, so little here to build upon. First of all, letâs not use the word âruntimeâ. Runtime in my opinion refers to Day 2, i.e. after the service has been deployed, which is Day 1. Letâs use the word âdeployment timeâ instead.
Second, TOSCA hasnât just âhintedâ at deployment-time requirements, in my opinion requirement fulfillment is by definition a deployment-time concept. I donât believe it can be interpreted any other way:
In summary:
In the real world, services will *always* depend on things that already exist, be they resources or components of other services that have been deployed previously. Being able to define these dependencies
in component models and service templates is in my opinion the most powerful feature of TOSCA. Without this feature, we will never be able to model interactions between TOSCA services and external systems, and TOSCA will forever be limited to supporting toy
applications only. Chris |
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