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Subject: Wednesdays call
This started out a email to Mark to let him know I would be late to Wednesday's call, but became longer, so I am sending the CSC list also. A few points I want to bring up, some of this may be brought up tomorrow on the LCSC/NDR joint call. Which is probably a good place for it to be. In working with Chee-Kai and the TTSC to implement the NDR rules into the scripts to generate the schema, they are having difficulty in understanding the way some of the rules need to be implemented. The complete information is not there. I have forwarded to Chee-Kai the older version of the NDR document itself, hoping that the non-normative text will help. Gunther already had this document to work from, plus he has been a part of NDR since the beginning. But, it goes deeper than that. They are pushing back to get more information about how to implement containers, I am not sure if he (Chee-Kai) is not understanding, or if its a real implementation problem, or what. I worked with Arofan on Friday to put together better information for him, but what Arofan considers easy to understand, and what I think Chee-Kai is looking from, are two different views. And they are still at odds. Chee-Kai has said, and the LCSC is agreeing, without more detailed information about the more complex rules, they are going to have to push back to have rules removed for Version 1.0, unless they can be implemented. I am torn both directions, how can we have rules we cannot implement ourselves? This is our testing ground. Another point we need to keep in mind is that some rules can be interpreted in many ways, and they may not actually intrepret the rule the way we meant it without more guidance. An example of this may be the way they do the documentation (xsd:documentation) using XHTML - we need to spell out how we want it used. We can not assume they are going to go searching through old archives of emails and old position papers, to find the guidence they need. We need to give it to them. Both Gunther and Chee-Kai are going to simeltaeously continue the development on their own individual scripts, trying not to use each other for guidance. This will give us two different implementations to draw experience from and to prove the rules. On today's TTSC call, we agreed that the rules marked "ACCEPTED" would be implemented without problem. The others are still un-stable and will have to be looked at on a case by case basis. In closing, I guess I would like to bring this issue to the front of our minds, without causing hardship for our UBL members who are working so hard to bring UBL into reality. Thanks. Lisa ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Lisa Seaburg AEON Consulting Website: http://www.aeon-llc.com Email: lseaburg@aeon-llc.com Alternative Email: xcblgeek@yahoo.com Phone: 662-562-7676 Cellphone: 662-501-7676 "If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." -Katharine Hepburn ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/2003
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