Minutes for 4 December CSC Call

["CRAWFORD, Mark" <MCRAWFORD@lmi.org>]

The CSC met on 4 December 2003 at 7:00 PST.

1.  Roll Call

Jon
Mark
Sue
Anne
Tim
Ken
Eduardo

2.  MC asked the question: Do we restructure CSC?  If so - what  should it be?  The CSC members are not the best individuals to address and resolve technical differences, but are the best to identify the issues.  There is general agreement.  What is the most efficient way to do this.  We know we could get rid of a lot of supervisory issues if we met as a joint committee. On the other hand, are we really at that stage in our work where this could work?  NDR does not think so.  SP would propose that we have regularly scheduled joint meetings such as on Friday.  JB likes the thought. EG thinks that if we do this, then it must always take place, and we must always have an agenda. TM asked if Jon would chair.  JB thinks so since it would not be quorum driven but focused on resolution of issues. AH will run the issues list in the near term. JB would like to see the list in a fixed URL - AH suggested using Peter's site.  Once set up, we could have 2 or 3 people empowered to change. MC suggested empowering all chairs. JB thought this would be problematic as the document could be checked out by more than one chair simultaneously. 

JB asked the question - when should we meet?  He suggested Friday.  MC raised the issue of the impact on European and Asian members of Friday Night/Saturday a.m.  After much discussion the group agreed on 7am PST every Friday - everyone in the TC will be strongly encouraged to dial in to a call to review all action items and address the issues.

JB - lets address Wednesday.  The CSC meeting has vacillated between a periodic meeting as required - or of late a regularly scheduled meeting.  After discussion, it was agreed that we would only have a formal meeting as required and the rest of the time the 8am PST to 8:30am PST would be reserved as a virtual faculty room. 

After discussion, we agreed that the first meeting is 5 December.  Anne will put out initial issues list.  We have agreed to use the UBL list to support this effort. We will not meet on 26 December and 2 January.  JB will put out message to TC list announcing this effort. 

The Initial issue list was agreed to as follows: 

- code lists
 - schema generation
 - publishing of NDR rules
- QA of deliverables
- Final CCTS alignment

 - Formal contribution of our semantics to TBG17 (we're already
   late with this compared to some other groups)

 - Detailed consideration of RosettaNet NDR input (yes, I heard
   that this got some discussion today while I was out preaching
   UBL to Adobe, but we have a liaison issue here as well)

 - Maintenance of thoroughly detailed diffs between beta and FCS
   as input to the localization SCs and beta implementors (without
   this, the localization SCs will run completely off the rails)

- Customization
-  Minutes Mail 

3.  We discussed minutes.  There are issues wrt to minutes posting, but more importantly - there are issues related to cross-posting and consistency.  AH raised an additional issue wrt Kavi and the pushing of material into members only area which requires password.  The concern is that casual observers will not bother.  JB proposed that 1) secretary post to members only area for that subcommittee and uncheck the box and 2) put the minutes into an email that goes to the subcommittee list. TM says it makes sense but it is basically the status quo. EG asked - do the minutes have to go by mail?  Why not just let the minutes be posted in Kavi?   Several folks said that would necessitate having a password to access the minutes?  There was no resolution on this issue and it was deferred until Friday.

4.  We adjourned at 8:00 PST.

Mark 
Mark Crawford 
Research Fellow - LMI XML Lead 
W3C Advisory Committee, OASIS, RosettaNet Representative 
Vice Chair - OASIS UBL TC & Chair Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee 
Chair - UN/CEFACT XML Syntax Working Group 
Editor - UN/CEFACT Core Components 
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