Re: [ubl-dev] UBL Processes

[Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@mac.com>]

Stephen,

I understand you point. What i am after though is to use UBL "on the  
Web"
(meaning: with usage of HTTP as an application protocol) instead of in
scenarios where messages are tunneled through HTTP POST. Specifically
I am looking for the appropriate way to use UBL in connection with  
the Atom
Publishing Protocol. Having a dedicated media type for UBL is  
definitely on
the agenda for this kind of use.

In UBL, are there elements that provide the information to a document  
receiver
where to send the next message in the overall process to? I suppose  
this is
subject to the actual cordination framework in use and deliberately  
out of scope
for UBL itself, yes?

IOW, if I received an UBL Order via email the sender's email address  
would be
the target for my Order Reply. There is nothing in the UBL Order  
itself that I
should (or: am allowed to) look at to find the target to reply to. Yes?

Thanks - all this is helping a lot.

Jan



On 16.02.2008, at 21:07, stephen.green@systml.co.uk wrote:

> The registering of MIME types was discussed recently on
> XML-Dev, eg:
>
> http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200712/msg00028.html
>
> XML for application-type languages need a MIME type. That
> means XML languages like Schematron, XSLT, etc. UBL is
> a document/data language and not really suitable - as
> seen by comparing it with existing registered XML
> MIME-types:
> http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype
> Types registered seem to be mainly those where there
> needs to be processing according to the type immediately
> the XML layer is encountered. With UBL the need to
> distinguish the syntax as being UBL rather than just XML
> would come later on in the processing of the document;
> there doesn't seem to me to be much need to understand it
> as specifically UBL until it reaches the XML routing and
> business application. I would have thought that by then
> it would be within the realm of processing where it is
> expected that UBL is used, from trading partner
> agreements and collaboration / web services definitions.
>
> Is there a need you have encountered to be aware that
> UBL is the language of XML used before the XML gets to
> the processes which already know what it is going to be?
>
> It isn't expected that UBL would ever be used without there
> first being trading partner agreements (and SLAs) about it
> being used, such as with a particular endpoint.
>
>
> Quoting Jan Algermissen <algermissen1971@mac.com>:
> ...
>>
>> For something completely different:
>> My aim is to apply UBL to HTTP-based interactions (=> REST) and
>> naturally I am troubled with UBL not having its own MIME type. Would
>> anyone be interested in going through the effort of having e.g.
>> application/ubl+xml regsitered with the IETF?
>>
>> Jan
>>
>
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