Re: [ubl-dev] cXML Order Request to UBL Order

[Stephen Green <stephen.green@documentengineeringservices.com>]

I tend to think that payment terms seems
odd when talking about an Order; whilst I agree 
with Ken's mapping of it to Transaction Conditions,
I wonder whether it makes sense except from in
the invoice - unless the ordering party (cXML's 

order-requesting party?) might sometimes dictate
the payment terms which seems unlikely. I agree
that order total is AnticipatedMonetaryTotal. I 
don't claim familiarity with complex ordering like
that used in supply chains - I've only been involved

with public sector purchasing/buying) - but I take
third party billing to be where a party paying for
freight is not the same as the party paying for
goods so I think it isn't right to use the 
AccountingCustomerParty for this - maybe UBL

doesn't support this (hopefully someone will 
correct me). Maybe there could be an extension
for anything not supported by UBL - if necessary
to cover complex supply chain requirements. I
don't know about 'drop ship' or 'ship complete'

- for same reasons as above.

I agree it would be good to see a wiki page for
documenting all this kind of information. Well done
Ken.

Best regards

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2009/7/7 G. Ken Holman <gkholman@cranesoftwrights.com>

At 2009-07-07 11:06 -0400, Marzka, Jeremy wrote:

I am in the process of mapping trading partner documents in various formats to a UBL Order layout. The document I am currently working on is a cXML Order Request and I am not sure where to map the following header fields:

Here are my guesses:

Order total

 /po:Order/cac:AnticipatedMonetaryTotal
 "An association to the total amounts for the Order anticipated by the Buyer."

Third party billing

 /po:Order/cac:AccountingCustomerParty
 "An association to the Accounting Customer Party. The party that Invoice is expected to be sent to if not the buyer party."

Drop ship PO/release

 /po:Order/cac:DeliveryTerms

Payment terms

 /po:Order/cac:TransactionConditions

Ship Complete (For the header)

 /po:Order/cac:DeliveryTerms

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I don't have an accounting background, so I don't even recognize some of your terminology (such as drop ship PO and release), but I hope that my guesses turn your face in the correct direction.

Please don't take my interpretations as gospel ... I'm trying to learn here myself by throwing up straw-man suggestions to be torn down if necessary.  I hope the business experts on the list will provide their own suggestions.

I'm also working with OASIS regarding setting up a collaborative environment on UBL.xml.org where each and every business entity in UBL can be discussed.

I'd also be interested to hear what your process is to find equivalent fields in UBL.

I'm looking through the HTML summary reports found here:

   http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/resources/ubl/index.htm#ubl2modelreport

... because the hyperlinking through the tables is very quick, and they copy most of the information from the spreadsheets.  Note there are two main sections:  the definitions and the tables.  Numeric hyperlinks link back and forth switching between the two sections.  Alphabetic hyperlinks link within the same section.

It seems to me like there isn't much documentation for the recommended use of the fields.

True ... my personal perspective is that it is not the UBL TC's role to tell a community of users *how* to use UBL, just to provide the standardized framework within which a community of users can send their information between parties using agreed-upon constructs.

I hope this helps.

. . . . . . . . . . . . Ken

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