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Subject: Re: [ubl-l10n] Differences in translations of UBL-Reusable-1.0.xls


Dear Jon Bosak,
Thank you very much for your big effort that is checking our translation
spreadsheet in detail.
I have checked your corrections referring the latest UBL specification CD2
spreadsheet.
I have recognized that our JPLSC translation spreadsheet is mistaken in the
place that you pointed out.
I have revised our JPLSC translation spreadsheet according to your
corrections. I attched the revised translation spreadsheet.

By the way, in the procedure of my checking and revising work, I have one
question regarding UBL English Definitions.
Some definitions have period at the end like complete English sentence. But,
some definitions don't have period at the end. These are inconsistency. How
can I understand this phenomenon? Are these some bags?
(Examples)
Item 286: (don't have period at the end.)
 associates (optionally) the party with an address
Item 289: (have period at the end.)
 associates (optionally) the party with a language.

Best Regards,
Yukinori Saito
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Yukinori Saito
Fuji Electric Information Service Co., Ltd. (FIS)
e-mail: saito-yukinori@fujielectric.co.jp
Tel: +81-3-5435-7333     Fax: +81-3-5435-7513
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jon.bosak@sun.com>
To: <ubl-l10n@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:52 AM
Subject: [ubl-l10n] Differences in translations of UBL-Reusable-1.0.xls


Hello UBL Localization Chairs,

In another message I describe a rehearsal for the creation of a
UBL multilingual data dictionary that uses UBL-Reusable-1.0.xls.
In the process of setting up that exercise, I noticed some
differences between the UBL 1.0 Standard and the UBL Names,
Dictionary Entry Names, and English Definitions in the translated
speadsheets.  The differences mainly reflect different versions of
the spreadsheets that were used to begin the different
translations.  Changes were made as we finished UBL 1.0, and some
of those changes were not reflected in the spreadsheets that you
were translating.

Below I've listed all the corrections that appear to be necessary
in order to bring the UBL Name, Dictionary Entry Name, and English
Definition columns of the Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Spanish
translations of UBL-Reusable-1.0.xls in line with the published
UBL 1.0 version.  Notice that in some cases, the changes will
necessitate a change to the translation itself.

This is all I will have time for right now, so a similar
comparison of the maindoc spreadsheets will have to wait for
later.

Jon

##################################################################
CNLSC and JPLSC Reusable
##################################################################

UBL Names: OK

==================================================================

Dictionary Entry Names: OK

==================================================================

English Definitions: The following differences were found.  The
translations should be checked for changes resulting from the
corrections indicated.

   Item 177:

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any overall payment
      settlement discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice
      multiplied by Quantity plus Allowance Charges)

   Should be (note the comma):

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any overall payment
      settlement discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice
      multiplied by Quantity, plus AllowanceCharges)

   Item 225:

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any payment settlement
      discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice multiplied by
      Quantity plus Allowance Charges)

   Should be (note the comma):

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any payment settlement
      discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice multiplied by
      Quantity, plus AllowanceCharges)

   Item 285:

      associates (optionally) the party with a party names

   Should be:

      associates (optionally) the party with a party name

   Item 286:

      associates (optionally) the party with an addresses

   Should be:

      associates (optionally) the party with an address

   Item 289:

      associates (optionally) the party with a languages.

   Should be:

      associates (optionally) the party with a language.

   Item 431:

      associates the Transport Handling Unit with one or more
      receipt lines on a receipt advice.

   This is correct, but the published spreadsheet is missing the
   period at the end.  The published spreadsheet should be
   corrected in 1.0.1.  No correction is needed by the LSCs.

##################################################################
ESLSC Reusable
##################################################################

UBL Names:

   Item 273:

      DocumentDocumentStatusCode

   Should be:

      DocumentStatusCode

   Item 274:

      IssueIssueDateDate

   Should be:

      IssueDate

==================================================================

Dictionary Entry Names:

   Item 78:

      Contact. Other_ Communication. (with trailing period and
      space)

   Should be:

      Contact. Other_ Communication (without trailing period and
      space)

   Item 83:

      Contract. Validity_ Period.

   Should be:

      Contract. Validity_ Period

   Item 118:

      Despatch Line. Transport Handling Unit (with trailing space)

   Should be:

      Despatch Line. Transport Handling Unit (without trailing
      space)

   Item 273:

      Order Reference. Document Document Status. Code

   Should be:

      Order Reference. Document Status. Code

   Item 274:

      Order Reference. Issue Issue Date. Date

   Should be:

      Order Reference. Issue Date. Date

   Item 380:

      Shipment. Shipment Stage. (with trailing period and space)

   Should be:

      Shipment. Shipment Stage (without trailing period and space)

   Item 381:

      Shipment. Transport Equipment. (with trailing period and
      space)

   Should be:

      Shipment. Transport Equipment (without trailing period and
      space)

==================================================================

English Definitions: The following differences were found.  The
translations should be checked for changes resulting from the
corrections indicated.

   Item 177:

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any overall payment
      settlement discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice
      multiplied by Quantity plus Allowance Charges)

   Should be (note the comma):

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any overall payment
      settlement discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice
      multiplied by Quantity, plus AllowanceCharges)

   Item 225:

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any payment settlement
      discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice multiplied by
      Quantity plus Allowance Charges)

   Should be (note the comma):

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any payment settlement
      discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice multiplied by
      Quantity, plus AllowanceCharges)

##################################################################
KRLSC Reusable
##################################################################

UBL Names:

   Item 273:

      DocumentDocumentStatusCode

   Should be:

      DocumentStatusCode

   Item 274:

      IssueIssueDateDate

   Should be:

      IssueDate

==================================================================

Dictionary Entry Names:

   Many of the Dictionary Entry Names (112 occurences) have an
   extra period (full stop) and space appended.  The period and
   trailing space should be deleted from all DENs.  Also, many of
   the DENs contain extra embedded spaces (129 occurences).  All
   instances of multiple spaces in DENs should be reduced to a
   single space.  Also:

   Item 6:

      Address. Street Name. Text

   Should be:

      Address. Street Name. Name

   Item 273:

      Order Reference. Document Document Status. Code

   Should be:

      Order Reference. Document Status. Code

   Item 274:

      Order Reference. Issue Issue Date. Date

   Should be:

      Order Reference. Issue Date. Date

==================================================================

English Definitions: The following differences were found.  The
translations should be checked for changes resulting from the
corrections indicated.

   Item 35: The KRLSC version is correct, but the published 1.0
      version contains an extra line break.  This should be
      corrected in the English version of 1.0.1.

   Item 177:

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any overall payment
      settlement discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice
      multiplied by Quantity plus Allowance Charges)

   Should be (note the comma):

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any overall payment
      settlement discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice
      multiplied by Quantity, plus AllowanceCharges)

   Item 225:

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any payment settlement
      discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice multiplied by
      Quantity plus Allowance Charges)

   Should be (note the comma):

      the monetary amount that is the total for the line item,
      including any pricing variation (allowances, charges or
      discounts) but not adjusted by any payment settlement
      discount or taxation. (equals BasePrice multiplied by
      Quantity, plus AllowanceCharges)

   Item 229:

      the maximum quantity of an item that a customer will allow
      to be back ordered.

   Should be:

      the maximum quantity of an item that a seller party will
      allow to be back ordered.

   Item 230:

      the minimum quantity of an item that a customer will allow
      to be back ordered.

   Should be:

      the minimum quantity of an item that a seller party will
      allow to be back ordered.

   Item 237: The KRLSC version is correct, but the published 1.0
      version contains an extra line break.  This should be
      corrected in the English version of 1.0.1.

   Item 285:

      associates (optionally) the party with one or more party names

   Should be:

      associates (optionally) the party with a party name

   Item 286:

      associates (optionally) the party with one or more addresses

   Should be:

      associates (optionally) the party with an address

   Item 289:

      associates (optionally) the party with one or more languages.

   Should be:

      associates (optionally) the party with a language.

   Item 358:

      identifier of additional information regarding the hazardous
      substance. Can be used to identify information such as the
      type of regulatory requirements that apply to a description.

   Should be:

      additional information regarding the hazardous
      substance. Can be used to specify information such as the
      type of regulatory requirements that apply to a description.

   Item 431:

      associates the Transport Handling Unit with one or more
      despatch lines on a despatch advice.

   Should be:

      associates the Transport Handling Unit with one or more
      receipt lines on a receipt advice.

UBL-BD9-Reusable-1.0-Japanese.xls



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