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Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 30 January 2002 UBL NDR meeting (such as itwas)

1. Roll call (till x:05)
    Bill Burcham
    Doug Bunting
    Dave Carlson
    Mavis Cournane
    Mark Crawford
    Fabrice Desré
    John Dumay            YES
    Matt Gertner
    Arofan Gregory        YES
    Phil Griffin
    Eduardo Gutentag
    Eve Maler             YES
    Dale McKay            YES
    Joe Moeller           YES
    Sue Probert
    Ron Schuldt
    Gunther Stuhec        YES
    Mike Rawlins
    Paul Thorpe

    By x:15, we didn't reach critical mass, much less quorum, so we chatted
    informally about how to proceed and then ended the call.

    Several people will be in Seattle next week for the EBTWG meeting, but
    it sounds as though many of them are willing to dial in to the NDR
    meeting.  It would be useful for them to caucus at the meeting to
    discuss the next issues we have on our plate, and to get together for
    the actual NDR call if they can find a speaker phone.  We have a
    new deadline approaching, and I'd like *not* to give up scheduled
    meeting times if possible.

    [This didn't come up on the call, but I just remembered again that I
    can't make the February 6 call.  If Mark isn't available, people will
    have to vote on a chair pro tempore to lead the meeting.]

    [This also didn't come up on the call, but I thought it would be
    worthwhile to make this plea: If you are a voting member but haven't
    attended two out of the last three meetings, please consider dropping
    back to observer status so that we don't have quorum problems.]

    ACTION: Eve will start a small number of new email threads, hoping to
    stimulate email discussion about our next batch of positions.  This
    will, we hope, mitigate the risk of losing out on meeting time.

    ACTION: Gunther will finish some modifications to the elements vs.
    attributes position paper and will post it by January 31.

    Adjourned at x:20.
Eve Maler                                    +1 781 442 3190
Sun Microsystems XML Technology Center   eve.maler @ sun.com

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