RE: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 6 March 2002 UBL NDR meeting

["CRAWFORD, Mark" <MCRAWFORD@lmi.org>]

Title: RE: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 6 March 2002 UBL NDR meeting

To everyone,

My most humble apologies.  I got wrapped up in a client crisis and forgot the time.  Thank you Matt for taking minutes.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Gertner [mailto:matthew.gertner@schemantix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:03 PM
> To: ubl-ndrsc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [ubl-ndrsc] Minutes for 6 March 2002 UBL NDR meeting
>
>
> The meeting was unchaired but we went forward anyway.
>
> 1. Roll call                           
>     Bill Burcham              YES
>     Mavis Cournane    YES
>     Mark Crawford
>     Fabrice Desré
>     John Dumay
>     Matt Gertner              YES
>     Arofan Gregory    YES
>     Phil Griffin     
>     Eduardo Gutentag  YES
>     Eve Maler       
>     Dale McKay      
>     Joe Moeller     
>     Sue Probert     
>     Ron Schuldt      
>     Lisa Seaburg     
>     Gunther Stuhec            YES
>     Paul Thorpe      
>
>     Quorum not reached as of x:15.  We proceeded informally.
>
> 1'. Next week's call
>      No real chair. Needs to be discussed on the list.
>
> 2. Acceptance of minutes of previous meetings
>
>     Deferred.
>
> 3. Adoption of agenda
>
>     Short discussion of Bill's paper
>     Elements vs. attributes
>
>     Adopted informally. Other items deferred.
>
> 4. Action item review
>
>     Deferred.
>
> 5. Tag names
>
> Short discussion of Bill's paper. Arguments made both for and against
> binding tag names in various ways to type names. Action to
> everyone to read
> latest version of Bill's paper (will be posted to list) as
> input for final
> decision.
>
> 6. Elements vs. attributes
>
> Gunther has a new position paper. He argues that attributes
> could be used
> more than previously discussed. An example in currency code:
> making it an
> attribute eliminates the need for additional child elements, is more
> readable and is more efficient. Also proposed for:
>
> * ID/IDREF
> * xml:lang (Arofan points out that there are difficulties
> enumerating this
> in practical cases, Gunther says that another attribute could
> be used for
> this purpose)
>
> Gunther says he still has to outline treatment of empty
> elements. Arofan
> says that a lot of elements will be empty in this case, since
> all data will
> be in attributes (which Eduardo doesn't like), but Gunther
> says this is not
> so: the value itself will be in the element content.
>
> Arofan points out one possible problem, which is when there
> is structure in
> the value (e.g. exchange rate info). This might be solved by
> using mixed
> content, which no one likes. Eduardo says that this can be
> solved using new
> attributes or sibling elements.
>
> In general, consensus that elements be used for data and
> attributes for
> metadata, as per Gunther's paper. One caveat from Arofan (no
> example given)
> is if metadata needs to have structure, in which case it has to use
> elements.
>
> 7. Adjourn
>     Adjourned y:00.
>
>
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