[ubl-ndrsc] Minutes - Joint NDR/LCSC 29 Jan 03

[Lisa-Aeon <lseaburg@aeon-llc.com>]

Joint phone meeting of the
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee
and the UBL Library Content Subcommittee.

 

Meeting Logistics
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    Date: 29 January 2003
    Time: 16h30 UTC
    Location: Toll-free (from the U.S.)         +1 888 422-7116
              International access/caller-paid  +1 608 250-1828
              Participant code                  398769
    Chair: Lisa Seaburg
    Scribe: Anne Hendry

 

Proposed Agenda
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    1. Roll call
    2. Acceptance of minutes
    3. Adoption of Agenda
    4. Status review
    5. Action Items
    6. Namespace
    7. Global/Local
    8. Adjourn

 

Meeting
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    1. Roll call, welcome from Chair, assignment to take minutes.

 

       See member lists:
 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ndrsc/ (quorum is 8)
 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/lcsc/ (quorum is 10)

 

       Regrets: Mark Crawford, Mike Grimley

 

       Present:
                                Yes           No
       NDR:
       Bill Burcham              x
       Mavis Cournane            x
       Mark Crawford                           x
       Fabrice Desré                           x
       Arofan Gregory                          x
       Jessica Glace                           x
       Michael Grimley                         x
       Eduardo Gutentag          x
       Eve Maler                 x
       Sue Probert                             x
       Lisa Seaburg              x
       Gunther Stuhec            x
       Paul Thorpe               x
       Kris Ketels               x
       Matt Gertner              x

 

       LC:
       Mike Adcock                             x
       Sally Chan                x
       Arofan Gregory                          x
       Stig Korsgaard                          x
       Monica Martin                           x
       Tim McGrath               x
       Bill Meadows              x
       Sue Probert                             x
       Deborah Quezadaz                        x
       Marion Royal              x
       Terry Schager                           x
       Lisa Seaburg              x
       Michael Seubert                         x
       Ray Seddigh                             x
       Alan Stitzer                            x
       Gunther Stuhec            x
       Dagmar Wachtmann                        x
       Nigel Wooden                            x
       Peter Yim                               x

 

       Guests:
       Jon Bosak                 x
       Anne Hendry               x
       Ken Holman                x

 

    2. Acceptance of minutes from past meetings.

 

       Not available - will review at next meeting.

 

    3. Adoption of agenda

 

       Agenda adopted with one addition from Tim/Anne:

 

             - 0p70 Review Period logistics.

 

    4. Release 0p70 status

 

       Comments:

 

          Several people have received comments on 0p70.
          Please send comments to Bill and QA team so they can be collated.

 

       Supplementary materials:

 

          Samples:

 

          Samples are high priority - there needs to be a more complete set
          of sample instances.  Sally has created a sample purchase order.
          Several fields are specific to the aerospace industry.
          However, there are no naming rules yet for names of elements
          that are extended (eg. to support industry specific fields).
          It is not clear how much of Sally's example follows 0p70 rules,
          but overall could provide crucial feedback for the context work.
          We need more work on real samples such as this.
         
          This is something that should be worked during the F2F.  Sally will
          not be at the F2F, so will continue to work on her sample this week.
          Friday QA slot will be dedicated to this as well.  Marion to schedule
          call.  Sally to send out her sample to both teams (lcsc and ndrsc).
          Then a joint team will work on this during the F2F to make sure
          there are enough quality samples for supplementary release.

 

          Ken has not yet received input from Sue/Jean on mapping UBL
          elements/attributes to layout fields, so there will be more work
          to do.  Highest priority is Order instance.  Ken will look at
          what Sally has done.  Has not received input from Sue/Jean yet
          on mapping field of ubl elements/attributes to layout fields
          so stylesheets are as they are - currently 7 stylesheets.
          Bill/Tim will look at annotating them with ubl element names
          to allow Ken to get going.  Will discuss on Friday's call.

 

          Context methodology:

 

          Tim opined that we need a clear path for how the context engine
          works (a broader scope of how context is to be applied to business
          rules) and that the Denver F2F will be the last opportunity to have
          this discussion F2F before the final release, so this should be a
          higher priority.  This is the issue of document assembly that Mike
          Adcock raised in this modeling work.  Matt agreed to begin a position
          paper summarizing the context methodology work (eg. how context drivers
          are applied and how to manually create specialized schemas), and pass
          to Eduardo by Friday so that it can be available during the F2F.
          Context Methodology will meet during the F2F to work on extension
          methodology and pulling together documentation on work that has
          been done and how to apply it.

 

          Jon noted that the result of the analysis of working out manual
          specifications for 1.0 will likely feed in to the global/local
          discussion.

 

          Other items:

 

          Annex D, section 4 (D.4), second paragraph, last sentence points
          to the lscs web page for supplemental packages, but they are not
          there.  Bill Meadows will update the page to make this correct.

 

       Schedule:

 

          Release of supplementary materials will be moved to 10 February
          to allow for sample instances work at the F2F and then time to
          create a new package.  

 

       Denver:

 

          Jon stated that the chairs meeting tomorrow morning will focus
          on the Denver agenda, and recapped:

 

              LCSC will work on building up set of sample instances.
              NDRSC will work on global/local and namespace issues.
              Context Methodology will work on completing Matt's document
                  and addressing issues raised in this meeting.

 

          Meeting by phone will be difficult, but should be able to
          establish specific times/locations where remote participants
          can dial in.  Need volunteers to sync their email close to
          the phone meeting times to update remote members.  Jon will
          be able to do file transfer.  Marion also can help.  Will
          decide in chairs call tomorrow what time to hold meetings
          (8am California time?)

 

       Review period logistics:

 

          Jon clarified that Anne's role is to help out LSC in organizing
          liaison input.  AI to communicating with liaison members to ensure
          their organizations are giving us input and handing that over to
          Bill Meadows.  Bill is taking comments from the world.  Anne is
          calling and channeling their input to Bill Meadows.  Bill maintains
          issues list.   Anne needs to talk to Liaisons and figure out how
          they want us to handle it - monolithic or on case by case basis.

 

          Lisa stated she's rather all ndr comments go into one bucket
          because ran into problems with issues list last time.  Some
          comments (and issues) will straddle both camps (ndr and lc).

 

          Anne, Tim, Lisa, Bill, Marion, Monica meet after this call to
          decide details.

 

    5. Action Items

 

       Last meeting's action items were completed.

 

       This week's action items for F2F:
 
              LCSC will work on building up set of sample instances.
              NDRSC will work on global/local and namespace issues.
              Context Methodology will work on completing Matt's document
                  and addressing issues raised in this meeting.

 

    6. Namespace - discussion to take place at F2F.

 

    7. Local/global - discussion to take place at F2F.

 

    8. Adjourned: 18h00 UTC

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Lisa Seaburg
AEON Consulting
Website: http://www.aeon-llc.com
Email:  lseaburg@aeon-llc.com
Alternative Email: xcblgeek@yahoo.com
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"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun."
                       -Katharine Hepburn
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