RE: [ubl-ndrsc] Tiny UBL Extension Example

[Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@sun.com>]

Matt, Bill,

I thought the following had been mentioned and made clear; I'm sure
it's somewhere in the minutes: Matt's paper was very well received
and it was decided (inasmuch as anything can be decided by a group
bordering on quorum but not necessarily achieving it) that it would be 
the foundation for a Guidelines paper (that is, guidelines on how to
do customization) that I would prepare during the meeting. So I have
"taken over" as it were this first iteration of the guidelines. I
presented a very preliminary version of it on Tuesday and I'm due to
present a much more evolved version this afternoon, lateish. Once
that's done we'll post it and hopefully Matt (and others) can take
it over...

PS: yes, this new version does not use "xsd:refinement" ;-)

PS2: I'm not sure <xsd:documentation> can be used (as a matter of
principle, not syntax) for things like recording the context. It's a
good idea, though. Opinions?

Thanks!

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 07:06, Matthew Gertner wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> Thanks for the comments. I knew my document must be full of errors since


> I was tired when I wrote it. The "xsd:refinement" thing is a perfect
> example.
> 
> Regarding the context drivers, I have no strong feelings about this. My
> inclination would be to leave it more open as I propose in the paper,
> but if you or anyone else is adament about one approach or the other and
> wants to duke it out, I will be happy to stand on the sidelines and
> watch. 
> 
> I appreciate the desirability of well-formed examples, but if I do this,
> you will start asking for VALID documents as well, and we all know what
> a slipperly slope that is. ;-) Seriously, I will fix this and the
> "xsd:refinement" thing and post a new version.
> 
> BTW: I'm ccing the NDR list since I think your comments might be of
> interest to others as well. Maybe someone will read this and put the
> document in the NDR document repository on the portal (hint, hint).
> 
> Matt
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Burcham, Bill [mailto:Bill_Burcham@stercomm.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:58 PM
> > To: 'Matthew Gertner'
> > Subject: RE: [ubl-ndrsc] Tiny UBL Extension Example
> > 
> > Quickie:
> > 
> > I don't think this tag is valid: "xsd:refinement" -- did you mean
> > "xsd:restriction"?
> > 
> > As you already pointed out, examples are useful.  At a minimum the
> paper
> > needs an appendix with schemas and valid instances.
> > 
> > An opinion on the context annotations: I'd rather see the context
> > categories
> > be part of the vocabulary, e.g.:
> > 
> > <xsd:annotation>
> > 	<xsd:documentation>
> > 		<ubl:Context>
> > 
> >
> <ubl:IndustryClassificationContext>Automotive</ubl:IndustryClassificatio
> nC
> > on
> > text>
> > 
> > <ubl:GeopoliticalContext>France</ubl:GeopoliticalContext>
> > 		</ubl:Context>
> > 	</xsd:documentation>
> > </xsd:annotation>
> > 
> > Reason I like that is that it represents more of a commitment to the
> > categories.  We've been too whishy-washy on those for too long.  On
> the
> > other hand I can see the wisdom of leaving that list more open longer
> > term.
> > I think though, that could be addressed by versioning the context
> category
> > schema in the near term and waiting to see if a thousand categories
> bloom
> > later.  I think we should err on the side of specificity in this
> > situation.
> > 
> > (also that snippet in your doc isn't well-formed -- missing closing
> tags -
> > -
> > I realize it's a bit tedious but we gotta machine-validate code that
> goes
> > in
> > our docs).
> 
> 
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