Re: [ubl-psc] [Fwd: [ubl-dev] UBL Invoice 1.0 - question wrtPaymentMeans and Payment\ReceivedDate]

[Mark Leitch <ml@tritorr.com>]

Title: Re: [ubl-psc] [Fwd: [ubl-dev] UBL Invoice 1.0 - question wrt PaymentMeans and Payment\ReceivedDate]

See below.
I hope this clarifies.

Regards, Mark

Mark Leitch
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From: Tim McGrath <tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au>
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:05:29 +0800
To: <ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject: [ubl-psc] [Fwd: [ubl-dev] UBL Invoice 1.0 - question wrt PaymentMeans and Payment\ReceivedDate]

Maybe someone can answer Jay on this one.  i am not sure i understand the scenario.

-------- Original Message --------   
 Subject:  [ubl-dev] UBL Invoice 1.0 - question wrt PaymentMeans and Payment\ReceivedDate  
 Date:  Mon, 3 Jul 2006 13:49:01 +0100  
 From:  Jay Cousins <jay.cousins@csw.co.uk> <mailto:jay.cousins@csw.co.uk>   
 To:  <ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org> <mailto:ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>   

Hi All,

A question with regard to Invoice\PaymentMeans\Payment\ReceivedDate.


PaymentMeans allows me to associate the invoice with an expected means
of payment. CORRECT; THE ISSUER OF THE ORDER CAN STATE 0..N ALTERNATIVE
MEANS OF MAKING PAYMENT AND THE ISSUER OF THE  INVOICE CAN STATE 0..N
ALTERNATIVE PAYMENT MEANS OF ACCEPTING PAYMENT.

So I, AS THE ISSUER OF THE ORDER, am able to assert that I will CAN make the payment by a
means of a certain type (PaymentMeansCode), identifying the channel
through which the payment is made by identifying the system processing
that payment (PaymentChannelCode), and then associate the payment means
with the relevant accounts as required (payee, payer, credit, card). ALSO I, AS THE ISSUER OF THE INVOICE,
AM ABLE TO ASSERT THAT I CAN ACCEPT PAYMENT BY DOING THE SAME.

This seems clear.

The Payment structure is defined as associating the payment means with a
payment *to be made* and so has a future sense - but a 'payment' is a
past action and once inside the structure the tense changes to past - to
PaidAmount and ReceivedDate.  HERE YOU WOULD USED THE QUALIFIED ASBIE IN THE INVOICE
CALLED PrepaidPayment (Invoice. Prepaid_ Payment. Payment)

I interpret the payment as covering a use case such as the payer having
prepaid part or all of the monies due - in which case both PaidAmount
and ReceivedDate are present. In the case that the payment amount is
known but the payment is not yet received for some reason, then the
ReceivedDate would not be present.  CORRECT; BOTH ARE OPTIONAL.

Is my interpretation correct or wrong, please?  YES, BEARING IN MIND THAT PAYMENT MEANS CAN ALSO BE USED IN THE ORDER.

Many thanks in advance for your clarification and advice,

Jay





Regards,

Jay Cousins

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