Re: SV: SV: [ubl-psc] Re: UBL prd2 issues

["Roberto Cisternino" <roberto@javest.com>]

Hi,
I also had two surnames (now I legally removed one of them) but I always
specified both on the same field as legally they were considered a unique
string.

This worked fine in banking accounts, and also into passport.

Are Spain institutions writing additional legal surnames on different
fields ?

I just ask you because on cross-border exchanges it could be a problem if
your surname is subdivided in two fields.
For instance if you book a flight you have to use both surnames (if they
are both legal) as they will have to match those on your passport.

By separating a surname information on two fields it could raise issues if
the two surnames have to be used together for legal reasons (mapping
issues for electronic exchanges)

Thanks

Roberto

> Then ok from me. I gues this is one of the special national cases like
> additional streetname.
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> Best regards
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> Peter
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> Fra: Oriol Bausā Peris [mailto:oriol@invinet.org]
> Sendt: 22. februar 2011 12:33
> Til: plb@ebConnect.dk
> Cc: ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Tim McGrath'
> Emne: Re: SV: [ubl-psc] Re: UBL prd2 issues
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> Hi Peter,
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>
> Unfortunatelly this does not work, as the Middlename is sometimes hidden.
> I've seen myself being named Oriol Peris because certain services just
> hide
> or not use the MiddleName, or Oriol B. Peris which is not my name.
>
>
>
> I could be named Josep Maria Garcia Coll. Here Josep is the first name,
> Maria is the middle Name, Garcia is the surname and Coll is the second
> surname.
>
> Regards
>
> Oriol
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> El 22/02/2011, a las 10:55, Peter L. Borresen escribiķ:
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> Hi Oriol
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> I order to keep semantic interoperability, would it then be ok to have the
> secondary surname as a middle name,
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> First Name: Peter or Oriol
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> Middelname: Larsen or Bausā
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> Surname Borresen or Peris
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> I think that a middelname is more commonly used outside spain.
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> /Peter
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> Fra: Oriol Bausā Peris [mailto:oriol@invinet.org]
> Sendt: 22. februar 2011 10:21
> Til: ubl-psc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Cc: Tim McGrath
> Emne: [ubl-psc] Re: UBL prd2 issues
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
> When working in Spain with the UBL 2.0 Invoice I've noticed that there are
> two relevant items in Spain that cannot be clearly stated.
>
> These things are:
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> 1) Person class: In Spain we have a second surname. I'd suggest to add a
> MotherSurname or SecondSurname in Person.
>
> 2) There is a use case in Spain where individuals can issue invoices to
> companies and these invoices can carry Personal Income Tax information, so
> the company must withhold that amount and pay it to the tax office on
> behalf
> of the individual.
>
> I thought this could be done using AllowanceCharge but the special usage
> of
> this withholding amount and the need of informing about it make me to
> think
> on an additional structure to carry this information.
>
> The point is that Withhold Amount must be deducted from the PayableAmount,
> but it does not affect the TaxInclusive Amount. If you think it is ok,
> I'll
> try to suggest a new structure for this.
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> I know it is late to raise these issues, my apologies.
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> Oriol
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> El 22/02/2011, a las 01:25, Tim McGrath escribiķ:
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> We are finalizing the draft but it may take a few weeks to get the public
> review launched.  i would expect it to be in March sometime.
>
> The decision on contractual information means that we wont be adding more
> structures for this, but i suggest you await the total package before
> evaluating it.
>
> On 21/02/2011 9:56 PM, Joao Frade wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tim, Hi all,
>
> We are currently checking the UBL 2.1 structures in detail (to evaluate
> the
> migration effort) and will need to check whether the proposed solution for
> contractual information meets our needs.
>
> When will the next public review of UBL 2.1 take place?
>
> Thank you very much for your feedback.
>
> With best regards,
> João
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> Tim McGrath  <mailto:tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com>
> <tim.mcgrath@documentengineeringservices.com>
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> 15/02/2011 01:23
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> To
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> Arianna Brutti  <mailto:arianna.brutti@enea.it> <arianna.brutti@enea.it>
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> cc
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> 'Oriol Bausā'  <mailto:oriol@invinet.org> <oriol@invinet.org>, Joao Frade
> <mailto:joao.frade@pwc.be> <joao.frade@pwc.be>
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> Subject
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> Re: UBL prd2 issues
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> we decided that we wold not act on both issues as we think the requirement
> can be met by using the additional document to define the contract
> details.
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> so the disposition for both is resolved (subject to possible feedback in
> PRD
> 2).
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> On 15/02/2011 12:53 AM, Arianna Brutti wrote:
> Hi Tim and Oriol,
>
> I have just discovered that I' m missing 2 resolutions to complete the
> implementation of the issues for prd2.
>
> You were in the resolution team and the issues are n. 64 and 87.
>
> Could you give me some feedbacks about?
>
> Thank you!
> Best regards,
> Arianna [attachment "tim_mcgrath.vcf" deleted by Joao Frade/BE/GRM/PwC]
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