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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 18|19 July 2005
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING 00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 19 JULY 2005 ATTENDANCE Jon Bosak (chair) Micah Dubinko Stephen Green Betty Harvey Tim McGrath Zarella Rendon TM: Won't be able to make this call next week. JB: We will go ahead anyway with the standing items and whatever content work we can get done. We will use email and ad hoc calls as necessary to progress the content work. STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm) None. Liaison report: TBG17 TM: Nothing to report yet. Subcommittee report: SBSC SG: Am producing update to previous comments. JB: Why "phase 1" in the SBSC row of the revised schedule? SG: Because using phase 0 as a template for phase 1, not content. We can't really target phase 0 for the SBSC schedule. JB: Regarding my action item (see Atlantic minutes) to decide between "committee draft" and "committee specification." [Reads the language in the latest OASIS TC process.] So it appears that we need to hold an absolute majority ballot to approve SBS as a CD and then put it into the new 60-day public review process. ACTION: SG to revise the current draft to include RegistrationName and CompanyID (needed for tax purposes) and send to the list with a request to begin the ballot for CD so that we can begin the 60-day public review mandated by the new TC process. JB to begin the ballot once the new draft has been posted, using boilerplate that allows nonsubstantive editorial changes as needed to conform to the process. Subcommittee report: HISC ZR: Nothing this week. Subcommittee report: SSC SG: We have the schemas, already made some comments. How will we handle schema generation? AGREED that BH will include the generation of schemas in her work with EDIFIX. BH: Will probably be at the meeting in Ottawa. Team report: Transportation TM: Had first meeting last week, next in a few hours; hoping for participation from UN eDocs, moving into a more official status. Discussed ultimately making this team a subcommittee. Team report: Procurement TM: Didn't meet this week, but am having a f2f with OGC Friday. This team might also become an SC. Review of Eurasia and Atlantic TC minutes SG: Anything decided about issues waiting for Tax XML input? TM: Yes, we ran through the list of issues relating to taxation; three areas: 1. Parties: already satisfied by the procurement solution; 2. Tax strucutres (flat rate vs percentage): UBL needs to prototype a solution and check back with Tax XML; 3. What info goes at line item level and what at document level: the reply was that we should try to move more things down into the line item level. SG: We also requested input on tax currency tax amount... item 104h... line 10 on the issues list. We requested input from the Tax XML TC as to whether this was too specific to Sweden. TM: Not in the tax section of the issues, so we missed it. ACTION: TM to pose this question by email to Dave and John of the Tax XML TC. REVISED SCHEDULE JB: Everyone needs to look at the revised UBL 2.0 schedule posted today. Note in particular that the meeting formerly scheduled for December 2005 is now tentatively set for January 2006. We will discuss this in Ottawa. REVIEW OF ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING (12 JUNE) PENDING ACTION: Transportation team to decide whether the DTTN contribution is a PR opp for them. JB: Thomas Lee has relayed a suggestion from Peter Stokes that we wait till UBL 2.0 is ready toward the end of the year. I think that's a good idea -- we can include this in the notice that begins the public review. (Agreed.) PENDING ACTION: JonB to schedule a discussion of CCTS compliance that will include MarkC and MichaelD. JB: I think that I need to review the correspondence before going any farther with this. TM: The timing is wrong for a request to the CCTS committee. We're not going to get an answer in time for 2.0. JB: So it's left ot us to decide. PENDING ACTION: SylviaW to convey the SBS Invoice to the Tax XML TC and solicit their feedback. Status: SW couldn't attend this week's meeting. CONTENT WORK TM/SG: The versioning of code lists in ATG2 CCTS schemas is done via namespaces; this information needs to be in the instances. We noted the issue as raised by David Dobbings back in March, but it was put down as an NDR issue, when really it's a content issue. The ATG2 solution is technically elegant but does not solve the problem in cases where (as in DK by law) the instance has to stand alone as a legal document. Quantity also needs version. ACTION: TM to send email to the ubl list identifying the two problems (issue 23, code list version id, and 27, structures of quantity amount and measure) and prepare a position statement to serve as a basis for escalation to ATG2. PENDING ACTION: StephenG to distribute drafts of Invoice and Credit Note to the list for discussion. We are to finalize these intial drafts in this call. Status: SG did send the drafts, but we're not finalizing today. Given TM's schedule, we will have to shift this work to email. Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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